Can I switch to higher survivor benefits from recently deceased ex-spouse after already claiming from another ex?
Hi everyone, I'm in a complicated situation with survivor benefits and need some advice. I'm at full retirement age now and have been receiving survivor benefits from my first deceased ex-husband for about 2 years. I took these benefits early because he had claimed his SS early, so waiting wouldn't have helped me much. Here's where it gets tricky - my other ex-husband just passed away recently. We were married for almost 15 years, and I know his Social Security benefit was several hundred dollars higher than what I'm currently receiving. Can I switch to receiving survivor benefits based on this recently deceased ex-spouse instead? And if I can switch, would I still be penalized because I started survivor benefits early from my first ex? Even though it's only a few hundred dollars more per month, that adds up over time, but I'm wondering if dealing with SSA makes it worth the hassle. This whole dual-ex situation is confusing me! Thanks for any guidance you can offer.
16 comments
Sean Doyle
Yes, you absolutely can switch to the higher survivor benefit! Since you're already at Full Retirement Age (FRA), you can get 100% of your recently deceased ex-spouse's benefit amount if it's higher than your current survivor benefit. The early claiming reduction only applied to the first benefit - it doesn't follow you when you switch to a different ex-spouse's record. Contact SSA right away because survivor benefits are not retroactive for very long. You'll need his death certificate and your marriage certificate showing you were married at least 10 years. The several hundred dollars difference will definitely be worth the effort - that's thousands per year for the rest of your life!
0 coins
Anastasia Fedorov
•That's such a relief to hear! I was worried that taking the first survivor benefit early would permanently reduce any future survivor benefits. Do you know if I'll need to pay back any of what I've already received from the first ex's record?
0 coins
Zara Rashid
I went thru something similar when my 2nd ex died. The SSA will pay u the HIGHER of the two benefits not both added together just so u know. I had to bring marriage certificate divorce papers and his death certificate to my appointment. Took like 3 months to switch over but the extra $230 a month was def worth it!!
0 coins
Anastasia Fedorov
•Thank you for sharing your experience! The 3-month processing time is good to know about. Did they backdate your payments to when you applied or to when he passed away?
0 coins
Luca Romano
This is a common misconception, but the previous replies are correct. Survivor benefits from different deceased spouses are treated separately. Since you're at FRA, you're eligible for the maximum survivor benefit based on either ex-spouse's record, whichever gives you the higher amount. The early claiming reduction from your first survivor benefit doesn't transfer over. One important note: when you apply for the new survivor benefit, SSA will automatically compare the two amounts and pay the higher one. They calculate this based on the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) of each deceased ex-spouse, so the difference might be slightly different than what you're estimating. Be prepared with all documentation: marriage certificate proving the 15-year marriage, divorce decree, and his death certificate. Also bring your current benefit verification letter showing what you receive now.
0 coins
Nia Jackson
•Actually THIS IS WRONG!! My cousin took survivor benefits early from her first husband and when she tried to claim from second ex years later they DEFINITELY reduced it!! Said early claiming follows you no matter what. She fought with them for months and they never budged - so don't get your hopes up!!!
0 coins
NebulaNova
I think your cousin's situation must have been different. Perhaps she wasn't at full retirement age yet when applying for the second benefit? The rules are clear that once you reach FRA, you can get the full survivor benefit regardless of any previous early claiming.
0 coins
Nia Jackson
•Maybe ur right... she was only 63 when her second ex died so that could explain it. Social security has so many crazy rules its impossible to keep track!!
0 coins
Mateo Hernandez
Good luck getting through to anyone at Social Security these days! I've been trying to get an appointment for THREE MONTHS about my own widow benefits. Every time I call, I'm on hold for hours, then get disconnected. Their online system is worthless for complex situations like this. So frustrated!!!
0 coins
Aisha Khan
•I was in the same boat trying to apply for survivor benefits last month! After trying for weeks, I finally used a service called Claimyr to connect with SSA. It got me through to an agent in about 20 minutes instead of spending hours on hold. You can see how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - it was honestly a game-changer. Their website is claimyr.com if you want to check it out. Way better than the constant busy signals and disconnections I was dealing with before.
0 coins
Anastasia Fedorov
Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! I'm going to gather all my documents (marriage certificate, divorce decree, death certificate) and try to schedule an appointment. It sounds like the few hundred dollars extra each month will definitely be worth the hassle of dealing with SSA, especially since it's for the rest of my life. I appreciate the tip about the phone service too - I might try that if I can't get through the normal channels. I'll update here once I've made progress with my application!
0 coins
Luca Romano
•Good plan! One more suggestion - after you submit the application, make sure to follow up regularly. Unfortunately, survivor claims sometimes fall through the cracks. Request a receipt with a confirmation number for your application, and if you don't hear anything after 3-4 weeks, call to check the status. Good luck!
0 coins
Zara Rashid
Make sure u bring id also they asked me for 2 forms of id when i went!!
0 coins
Anastasia Fedorov
•Thanks for the reminder! I'll definitely bring my driver's license and passport just to be safe.
0 coins
Mateo Hernandez
Did anyone else notice how complicated our system is?! Why should someone have to jump through all these hoops just to get benefits they're entitled to? Two deceased ex-spouses, early vs. full retirement age rules, documentation requirements... No wonder people give up or miss out on benefits they deserve. The whole system needs an overhaul!
0 coins
NebulaNova
•I agree it's complicated, but to be fair, this is a pretty unique situation. Most people don't have multiple deceased ex-spouses with different benefit amounts. The complexity comes from trying to make the system fair for all these different scenarios.
0 coins