Can I switch from widow benefits to my own SS retirement after years of collecting? Cancer survivor working full-time
I've been receiving widow's benefits since about 2022 when I was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Doctors gave me less than a year to live, so I applied for my late husband's Social Security benefits 2 months before reaching my full retirement age. My husband passed away back in 2005. Fast forward - I've somehow beaten the odds (so far!) and I'm still here 3 years later. I'm working full-time and my income has gradually increased over these years. I never expected to still be working or even alive at this point, so I didn't plan my SS strategy for the long-term. My question is: Since my own earnings record has improved with these additional years of work, is it possible to switch from widow's benefits to my own retirement benefits if mine would now be higher? Or am I permanently locked into the widow benefit option I chose? My current monthly payment is around $2,450.
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Luca Ferrari
Congratulations on beating those terrible odds! That's truly amazing. About your benefits question - unfortunately once you've started receiving any kind of Social Security benefit after your 62nd birthday, you're generally locked into that benefit type with just the annual COLAs. The only exception would be if you were receiving reduced benefits before your FRA and then reached FRA - but it sounds like you started just 2 months before FRA, so you're likely already getting close to the maximum widow benefit possible.
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NebulaNomad
•Thank you! Every day is a blessing I didn't expect to have. That's disappointing about being locked in though. I wish I had known more about how this works when I applied. Do you know if my continued earnings are at least increasing my current benefit at all?
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Nia Wilson
wait im confused - i thought u could definitely switch between widow and ur own? my mom did that last year. she was on my dads for a while then switched to hers when she turned 70. anyone else know for sure??
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Mateo Martinez
•You're actually right! The previous commenter was incorrect. This is one of the few situations where you CAN switch benefits. If you're receiving surviving spouse benefits, you can still switch to your own retirement benefits if they would be higher (typically at age 70 when your own benefits would be maximized). The reverse is also true - people sometimes take their own reduced retirement early, then switch to survivor benefits at their FRA.
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Aisha Hussain
I went through something similar (though not with cancer - glad you're beating it!). Here's what I've learned: survivor benefits and your own retirement benefits are actually separate entitlements. The SSA should automatically give you whichever is higher, but with your continued working, you need to make sure they're recalculating your own benefit. BUT - and this is important - since you're still working, be aware of how your earnings might affect your benefits. There's no earnings limit once you reach your full retirement age, but if you started benefits before your FRA, there might have been an earnings limit for those months. Did you have any benefits withheld during that time?
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NebulaNomad
•Thank you for the detailed response! I don't think I had any benefits withheld, since I only started 2 months before my FRA and I wasn't earning that much right after my diagnosis when I started treatment. But I'm earning significantly more now than I was 3 years ago. Does the SSA automatically recalculate my own potential benefit based on my continued work, or do I need to request this?
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Ethan Clark
THE SSA DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY DO ANYTHING HELPFUL!!! You have to advocate for yourself with these people. They're not going to call you up and say "hey we noticed you could get more money!" CALL THEM and ask for a benefit recalculation based on your additional work years. But good luck actually reaching anyone - I spent 3 WEEKS trying to get through to a human!!!
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StarStrider
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Yuki Sato
I work with retirees on their finances and see this situation more often than you'd think. Here's what you need to know: 1. The SSA does NOT automatically recalculate your retirement benefit based on additional work years. You need to request this. 2. For widow(er) benefits, you can absolutely switch to your own retirement benefit if it would be higher, regardless of when you started the survivor benefit. 3. Each additional year of substantial earnings can replace a lower-earning year in your 35-year calculation for your own benefit. 4. Since you're past your FRA now, your own benefit calculation would include delayed retirement credits for any months between your FRA and when you switch to your own benefit. Contact the SSA and request a benefit recalculation AND ask what your own retirement benefit would be now vs. your current widow benefit. This could potentially mean a significant increase in your monthly payment.
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NebulaNomad
•This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea about the delayed retirement credits potentially applying. So it sounds like I might benefit from two things: the increased earnings replacing lower years AND potentially some delayed credits? I'm definitely going to contact SSA and request this recalculation. Thank you so much!
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Nia Wilson
btw congrats on beating cancer!!! my aunt had stage 4 too and shes in remission 5 yrs now. keep fighting!!
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NebulaNomad
•Thank you so much! Stories like your aunt's give me so much hope. Every day is a gift I wasn't supposed to have!
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Ethan Clark
I'm so confused about all the advice here. My sister was told she couldn't switch from one type to another after she already started. Why is widow benefits different???
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Mateo Martinez
•It's confusing because the rules are different for different benefit types. Here's the simple version: - Widow/survivor benefits can be switched to retirement benefits (or vice versa) at any time if one would be higher than the other - Spousal benefits generally cannot be switched to retirement benefits once you've applied (with some exceptions for those born before 1954) - Disability benefits automatically convert to retirement benefits at FRA Your sister's situation may involve spousal rather than survivor benefits, which have different rules, or there might be other factors specific to her case.
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Luca Ferrari
I need to apologize for my earlier incorrect information! I was confusing the rules for spousal benefits with survivor/widow benefits. The other commenters are correct - you CAN switch from widow benefits to your own retirement benefits if yours would be higher. I'm so sorry for the confusion I caused.
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NebulaNomad
•No worries at all! This is all very complicated. I appreciate you coming back to clarify!
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Aisha Hussain
When you contact SSA, make sure you have your recent tax returns handy. They may want to verify your earnings for the recalculation. Also make sure to specifically ask about: 1. What your current widow benefit amount is (with exact figures) 2. What your own retirement benefit would be if you switched now 3. Whether waiting longer to switch would increase your own benefit further Get all three numbers so you can make an informed decision. And consider asking them to document this in your file, even if you don't make a change immediately.
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NebulaNomad
•This is great advice! I'll definitely prepare my tax returns before calling and ask for these specific figures. Thank you!
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