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After reading all these comments, it sounds like you'd really benefit from getting a personalized analysis of your situation from SSA directly. When I finally got through to them after using Claimyr, the agent ran several different claiming scenarios specifically for our financial situation. They showed us the lifetime benefit totals under different life expectancy assumptions. For a decision this important affecting potentially hundreds of thousands in lifetime benefits, it's worth getting expert advice tailored to your specific circumstances rather than general opinions.
Oh please. SSA agents just read from scripts and don't give personalized financial advice. I went to my local office and was basically told to read the website. Total waste of time. 🙄
did u check what ur spousal benefit would be when u retire?? my friend got more from her husbands record than her own even tho she worked 30 years
This is another excellent consideration. If your own benefit at FRA would be less than 50% of your husband's FRA benefit, you could receive a spousal boost when you claim. However, if he claims early, it doesn't reduce your potential spousal benefit because that's based on his FRA amount, not his actual benefit amount. Survivor benefits, however, ARE affected by early claiming.
Thank you everyone for the responses! I'm going to apply online in March 2025 (4 months before my July payment). I feel much better knowing I don't have to worry about the earnings limit after reaching my FRA in June. One last question - do I need my birth certificate for the online application? I have my passport but not sure where my birth certificate is right now.
You'll need to provide proof of age, but a passport is sufficient if you don't have your birth certificate readily available. The online application will tell you what documents are acceptable. Just make sure your passport isn't expired!
word of caution about applying online - i did that but there was a GLITCH and my application disappeared!!! had to start all over by phone. maybe things are better now but that was only last year. i'd recommend calling AND applying online to be safe
While technical issues can occasionally happen, applying twice (both online and by phone) would actually cause more problems. It could create duplicate applications in the system, leading to processing delays. The online system is generally reliable, and you receive a confirmation number when your application is successfully submitted. Save that number and follow up if you don't receive an acknowledgment within a week.
For the indexing thing - just know that they only use your highest 35 years of earnings when figuring ur benefit. If u worked 42 yrs like u said, they'll throw out ur 7 lowest-earning years. Also they adjust all those earnings to current dollars befor calculating. its complicated!!!
I had a similar situation with the tax withholding issue. I'd recommend selecting the 12% option on the W-4V unless you have significant other income. The 7% is rarely enough to cover the tax liability for most retirees with pension or investment income. After you submit the form, you can check your mySocialSecurity account about 30-45 days later to verify the new withholding amount is being applied correctly. Regarding the indexing factors, it's also worth knowing that earnings after age 60 aren't indexed (they're counted at face value), which can make understanding the formula a bit confusing.
I've been dealing with Social Security for YEARS and this is nothing new. They NEVER update their systems on time. My husband and I both got caught in the confusion when the FRA changed years ago. The website said one thing, the phone people said another thing, and the office staff said something completely different! Then they have the nerve to blame YOU when their mistakes cause problems. Do NOT trust what one agent tells you - always get a second opinion and GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING!!!
This happened to my cousin too! She was told different things by different people and ended up missing out on 6 months of benefits. Makes me nervous about applying myself next year.
Update: After reading all your helpful comments, I decided to try calling. After THREE HOURS on hold, I finally got through to someone. They confirmed that yes, for WEP/GPO repeal cases, phone or in-person are the only options right now. They're "working on updating the website" but couldn't give a timeframe. So frustrating! The agent was actually very helpful once I got through and started my mother-in-law's application. They'll be mailing her some forms to complete and return. Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions!
Glad you got through! Make sure she keeps copies of EVERYTHING she sends them. And note the date the forms were mailed back. If they claim they never received something (happens all the time), having proof of when it was sent can make a big difference. Also, if she has MySSA account, she can check the status online even though she couldn't apply online.
Sofia Rodriguez
Something else to consider: if you have any periods of employment where you DID pay into Social Security (outside of your non-covered pension job), you might qualify for your own Social Security benefit. If that's the case, you wouldn't be subject to GPO on those benefits - only on the spousal/survivor benefits. This could potentially increase your total retirement income. Do you have any work history outside of your pension-covered employment?
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Giovanni Marino
•Yes! I worked part-time at a private clinic for about 8 years after leaving my county job. I paid into Social Security during that time. I didn't think it would amount to much since it wasn't full-time work. Would that really make a difference?
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Sofia Rodriguez
That could absolutely make a difference! Those 8 years of covered employment would contribute to your own Social Security benefit, which would not be reduced by GPO (though it might be affected by WEP, but differently). In fact, if your own benefit is higher than your reduced spousal benefit, you'd receive your own instead. When your husband passes, you'd then get the higher of: your own benefit OR your reduced survivor benefit. Having multiple income sources can significantly improve your financial situation. I strongly suggest getting a Social Security benefits analysis to see exactly how these calculations would work in your specific case.
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Giovanni Marino
•This is extremely helpful information. I had no idea my part-time work could make such a difference. I think I'll definitely need to speak with someone at SSA to get the exact calculations. I feel a bit more hopeful now about my financial situation. Thank you!
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