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If you don't mind me asking, what conditions are you dealing with? Some conditions have much higher approval rates than others.
I have degenerative disc disease with two failed back surgeries, severe coronary artery disease (had a heart attack last year), and type 2 diabetes that's caused neuropathy in both feet. Also dealing with depression and anxiety that my doctor says is directly related to my physical health deteriorating, but I know mental health claims are even harder to get approved.
With that combination of serious conditions, especially with the documented heart attack and failed surgeries, you have a strong case for your hearing. Make sure your attorney has all the medical documentation, particularly anything that specifically states work limitations from your doctors. Statements about being unable to stand/walk for certain periods, inability to lift objects, need for frequent breaks, etc. are particularly valuable for your case.
Just to add one more important point: If you've just started collecting Social Security in November 2024, your benefit amount might be different in 2025 due to the annual Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA). This adjustment took effect with December 2024 benefits (payable in January 2025). Make sure to budget accordingly for any tax implications based on your new benefit amount going forward.
Thank you everyone for all the helpful answers! I'll keep an eye out for the SSA-1099 in the mail, but I'm also going to set up my online account to access it there if needed. Since I'm past FRA, it sounds like I don't need to worry about the earnings limit, which is a relief. I'll look into that W-4V form to have some taxes withheld from my SS benefits going forward to avoid a surprise tax bill. This community has been incredibly helpful!
Make sure to double check the FRA for survivor benefits! Some people don't realize survivor FRA can be different from retirement FRA depending on your birth year. For most people born 1943-1954, FRA for survivors is 66, not 67. Just want to make sure you have the right age!
One more thing to consider - when you apply, do it as a "filing strategy" rather than just applying for benefits. Make it very clear you're: 1) Filing ONLY for survivor benefits at your FRA 2) Explicitly deferring your retirement benefits to grow delayed retirement credits 3) Planning to switch to your own higher benefit at age 70 I recommend applying in person at your local office if possible for this type of situation. Over the phone or online applications sometimes don't handle these strategic filings correctly. Bring a printed statement explaining your intention if needed.
I thought I read somewhere that Congress might eliminate WEP? Is that true or just wishful thinking?
There have been several bills proposed over the years to reform or eliminate WEP, but none have passed yet. The most recent ones are the Social Security Fairness Act and the Equal Treatment of Public Servants Act. They get reintroduced every Congress but haven't made it through. Don't hold your breath - plan as if WEP will still affect you because that's the current law.
Update: I found the WEP calculator link and it worked! For anyone else dealing with this, it shows both the regular PIA and the reduced amount after WEP. In my case, my monthly benefit would be $2,285 without WEP but will be $1,786 with the reduction. My 23 years of substantial earnings helped reduce the penalty from the maximum, so that's good news at least. Thanks everyone for your help!
Liam Mendez
To directly answer your original question: The WEP applies when you receive a pension based on work where you didn't pay Social Security taxes. The key factor is not whether you receive monthly payments or a lump sum, but whether the payment is based on non-covered employment. An important exception exists if your pension is based on a mix of covered and non-covered employment. If that's the case, the SSA will only apply WEP to the portion derived from earnings where you didn't pay Social Security taxes. Request a detailed WEP calculation from SSA before making your decision.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Thanks for the clear explanation. My pension would be entirely from non-covered employment, so it sounds like I can't avoid the WEP impact entirely. I'll definitely request that detailed calculation from SSA.
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Isabella Brown
Another consideration: depending on your age and specific situation, you might want to look into whether the "substantial earnings test" might help reduce your WEP impact. If you can demonstrate that you had substantial earnings under Social Security for enough years (the magic number is 30, but there's a sliding scale), your WEP reduction can be lessened or eliminated. This would be true whether you take the pension as a lump sum or monthly payments.
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Emily Jackson
•The substantial earnings thresholds are RIDICULOUS too!!! For 2025 you need $32,400 to count as "substantial" - many hard-working people don't make that much especially in rural areas or working class jobs. Another way the system discriminates!!
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