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As others have mentioned, your husband might be eligible for a spousal supplement if 50% of your PIA exceeds his own PIA. One more thing to consider—has your husband checked his earnings record on ssa.gov to make sure all his work years are correctly recorded? It's not uncommon to find errors, especially for jobs from many years ago. If he has 35+ years of work history, also consider whether his current earnings might be higher than some earlier years. Working even just a few more months could potentially increase his benefit if he's replacing a lower-earning year in his top 35.

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That's a great suggestion about checking his earnings record! We haven't done that recently, and his early work history included some small jobs that might not have been properly reported. We'll definitely take a look at his full record before he applies.

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I wish I could get a straight answer from SSA!!! Their website says one thing, the phone people say another, and then when you go to the office they tell you something completely different! No wonder we're all confused about what benefits we can get. The whole system needs to be simplified!!!

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preach!!! 🙌 i spent 3 weeks trying to figure out my benefits. online calculator said one amount, then letter came with different amount, then first payment was third different amount! finally got it straight but what a headache

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your not wasting time i think u should go to appointment because the people in person are nicer then the phone people

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Thanks, that's reassuring. I'll definitely keep the appointment. From everyone's comments it sounds like I might actually get some useful information.

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One additional thing to keep in mind - and something that confused me greatly during my own widow planning - is that you'll eventually need to decide between your own retirement benefit and your survivor benefit. You can take one first and switch to the other later if it's higher. This can be a complex but beneficial strategy. For example: 1. Take reduced survivor benefits at 60 2. Switch to your own retirement benefit at 70 (if it's higher by then) OR 1. Take your own retirement benefit at 62 2. Switch to survivors at your FRA for the maximum survivor amount This is exactly why you need those estimates now - to figure out which strategy works best for your situation. Make sure to specifically ask about these switching strategies during your appointment.

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This is excellent advice about the switching strategy. I'll add that the optimal strategy depends a lot on the relative amounts of your own benefit vs. your survivor benefit, as well as your life expectancy and immediate financial needs. Having these estimates is crucial for making an informed decision.

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I had no idea about these switching strategies! This makes it even more critical that I get some estimates now. Thank you so much for sharing this information - I'll definitely bring this up at my appointment.

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WEP repeal impact: Should I go back to non-SS teaching job or work somewhere with SS taxes to maximize benefits?

I'm in a weird spot with Social Security after the WEP repeal and need some guidance on maximizing my benefits. My work history is split between SS and non-SS employment. I worked enough in SS-covered jobs when I was younger to earn the required credits. Then I taught for many years in a district that didn't pay into Social Security (fell under Windfall Elimination Provision). I retired at 61 with a defined benefit pension of about $3,750/month. For the past few years, I've been working part-time making around $25,000 annually in a job that DOES pay into SS while collecting my pension. With the WEP repeal, I'll now be eligible for my full SS benefit instead of the reduced amount! But here's my dilemma - I have two potential opportunities: 1. Return to full-time teaching that DOESN'T pay into SS for 3 years. I'd "double-dip" (get pension + salary) without my pension being recalculated. Salary would be about $62,000. 2. Teach full-time for 3 years in a district that DOES pay into SS. Salary around $69,000, which would boost my future SS benefit. According to my calculations, my SS benefit at 65 would be about $713/month if I keep my part-time job. If I work full-time in an SS-covered position for 3 years, it might increase to around $1,001/month. Financially, I'm comfortable - no debt and almost $750,000 in savings (money market/CDs/IRAs). I enjoy semi-retirement but don't mind working a few more years if it makes financial sense long-term. Am I missing anything important in my decision-making process? Which option would you recommend?

One more important consideration: Remember that Social Security benefits are calculated based on your highest 35 years of indexed earnings. If you don't have 35 years of SS-covered employment, the formula fills in zeros for the missing years. If you work 3 more years in SS-covered employment at $69,000, you'd be replacing 3 zeros (or very low earning years) in your calculation. That's why you're seeing such a significant jump in your estimated benefit (from $713 to $1,001). Have you requested your Social Security earnings record? That would show exactly which years would be replaced and might help with your decision. You can view this online if you have a mySocialSecurity account.

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I do have a mySocialSecurity account but haven't looked at my detailed earnings record recently. I'll definitely check which years would be replaced by the potential new earnings. I'm pretty sure I have several zeros in my calculation since I spent over 20 years in non-SS teaching positions.

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You're overthinking this way too much. If you don't need the money, do what makes you HAPPY. Period. End of story. No more analysis needed!

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When you put it that way, it sounds so simple! I'm definitely prone to overanalyzing. Maybe I need to step back and ask myself what I truly want from the next few years rather than just looking at the numbers.

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After reading through all your responses, it sounds like filing now might align with your needs, especially since you're already drawing from savings. One last thing to check - have you created a my Social Security account online? It will show you precise benefit estimates at different ages based on your actual earnings record. Sometimes the estimates people work with aren't accurate.

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Yes, I set up my account last year - that's where I got the $2,275 estimate from. I think I'm leaning toward filing now after all this helpful discussion. Maybe not what I expected but I feel better about the decision now.

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WATCH OUT for taxes!!!! Many people don't realize that up to 85% of your SS benefits can be taxable depending on your other income. Make sure you understand how this works or you might get a nasty surprise next April!!

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Good point about taxation. With your pension plus Social Security, you'll want to calculate if your combined income (AGI + half of Social Security + tax-exempt interest) exceeds the thresholds. For 2025, taxation begins when combined income exceeds $25,000 for single filers. Might be worth consulting with a tax professional as part of your decision.

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One additional consideration for your planning: While your husband's spousal benefit would be reduced if he files early, his survivor benefit (if you were to pass away) would NOT be affected by his decision to take his own benefit early. As a survivor, he could receive up to 100% of whatever benefit amount you were receiving at death (including your delayed retirement credits to age 70). This is an important distinction because it might influence your decision-making. If maximizing his potential survivor benefit is important, your plan to delay until 70 is excellent because it maximizes that potential survivor benefit, regardless of when he takes his own retirement benefit.

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That's a really important point I hadn't considered. So my decision to delay to 70 protects him in case I pass away first. That definitely makes me feel better about my decision to wait. Thank you for pointing that out!

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One more thing to think about - how long can you guys go without him filing? If money's tight and you NEED the income at 64, sometmes you just gotta take what you can get. No point suffering for years just to get a bit more later. Gotta balance the math with real life needs.

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That's very true. We're fortunate that I have a decent pension that covers our basic expenses, but we're hoping to do some traveling while we're still healthy enough to enjoy it. We might need to reassess our budget and see if we can manage with him waiting until his FRA. It's all about trade-offs!

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