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To add some clarity here - the living arrangement question serves several purposes: 1) It helps SSA determine if there might be multiple potential claimants, 2) It identifies if there might be issues with the validity of the marriage, and 3) It helps with determining household expenses for certain calculations. As long as you were legally married and there's no question about the validity of the marriage, separation without a legal separation agreement should not impact eligibility for survivor benefits. The key facts from your situation: legally married, no divorce filed, no legal separation agreement. These are what matter for your survivor benefits eligibility. Your strategy of waiting until FRA for survivors while letting your own benefit grow is generally sound, but you might want to run calculations for different scenarios once you get accurate benefit amounts.
I'm sorry for your loss, Kevin. Based on what you've shared, your separated status should not affect your eligibility for survivor benefits since you remained legally married. The SSA's question about living together is mainly for administrative purposes - they need to document circumstances but it doesn't disqualify legally married spouses. However, I'd recommend being proactive about documentation. When you apply, bring your marriage certificate, his death certificate, and any records showing you maintained separate households for work/personal reasons rather than marital discord. This can help avoid delays if you encounter a caseworker who needs extra clarification. Your strategy of waiting until FRA for survivor benefits while letting your own grow until 70 is smart if you can financially manage the gap years. You might also want to create a my Social Security account online to get benefit estimates - it's much easier than dealing with phone calls or office visits, and you can run different scenarios to optimize your claiming strategy.
This is really helpful advice about being proactive with documentation! I hadn't thought about bringing records that show the separation was for practical reasons rather than marital problems. Do you think utility bills or lease agreements from our separate addresses would be useful documentation to bring along? I want to make sure I have everything ready to avoid any unnecessary delays in the process.
I'm in a very similar boat - just started receiving my benefits at 67 and was completely overwhelmed by the withholding options. What I ended up doing was meeting with a tax professional for one session to help me calculate the right percentage based on all our income sources. It cost me $200 but was totally worth the peace of mind. She helped me understand that with my pension and my husband's continued work income, we needed to withhold 15% to avoid owing at tax time. The key thing she told me was to remember that Social Security withholding is "flat" - it doesn't adjust based on your other income like payroll withholding does. So you really need to look at your complete tax picture to get it right. Don't be afraid to start a bit higher than you think you need - getting a small refund is much better than owing thousands in April!
That's really smart advice about starting higher rather than owing later! I think I'm leaning toward 12-15% after reading everyone's experiences. The point about SS withholding being "flat" vs payroll withholding is something I hadn't considered - that makes total sense why we need to look at the whole picture. A $200 consultation sounds like money well spent to get this right from the beginning. Thanks for sharing!
I went through this same situation last year when I started my benefits at 65. Here's what I learned the hard way: definitely start with at least 12% withholding, especially with your combined income sources. What really caught me off guard was how much of our Social Security became taxable once you factor in pension income plus your part-time work. The IRS uses this thing called "provisional income" to determine how much of your SS is taxable, and it includes half your SS benefits plus all other income. With your wife's $29,760 annual benefit plus your $32k work income plus pension, you're likely looking at having 85% of her SS benefits being taxable. I started with 10% withholding and ended up owing about $2,800 at tax time. Bumped it up to 14% the following year and now we usually get a small refund. Also, don't forget you can make quarterly estimated payments if you find the withholding isn't quite enough. Better to be safe than scrambling in April!
I'm also brand new to the SSDI application process and just submitted mine about 5 days ago! This entire thread has been absolutely invaluable - I was getting really worried that something was wrong when I saw zero movement in MySocialSecurity. It's both reassuring and frustrating to learn that weeks of no updates is completely normal. What really gets to me is how we're already dealing with disabilities that impact our daily lives, and then we have to navigate this incredibly slow and outdated system that adds so much unnecessary stress. The fact that there's no proper real-time tracking in 2025 for something this important is just unbelievable. But finding this community and reading everyone's real experiences has been more helpful than any official SSA information I could find. I'm definitely going to remember the tip about calling local offices instead of the national number, and I'll try to resist the urge to check the portal every single day! Thank you all for sharing your journeys and creating such a supportive space for those of us just starting this overwhelming process.
I just submitted my application yesterday and I'm already feeling that anxiety about checking the portal! It's so helpful to read everyone's experiences here - knowing that 5 days is basically nothing in SSA time makes me feel better about not seeing any updates yet. What really resonates with me is how we're all dealing with health challenges that already make everything harder, and then we get thrown into this maze of bureaucracy that seems designed to stress us out even more. The community support in this thread is amazing though - it's like having a guide through the process from people who actually understand what we're going through. I'm definitely bookmarking this discussion and trying to manage my expectations for the long haul ahead!
Welcome to the waiting game! I just filed mine about 3 weeks ago and can totally relate to that urge to check constantly. This thread has been a lifesaver for setting realistic expectations. What I've learned is that the anxiety of not knowing is almost worse than the actual waiting once you understand how slow the system really is. The fact that we're all navigating this broken system while dealing with health issues that already make life challenging just adds another layer of stress we shouldn't have to deal with. But having this community to share experiences and tips makes such a huge difference. Hang in there - sounds like we're all in this marathon together!
I'm also completely new to this process and just filed my SSDI application about a week and a half ago! This thread has been such a godsend - I was starting to spiral thinking I'd messed something up when absolutely nothing changed on MySocialSecurity. It's incredible how many of us are going through the exact same experience with this outdated system. What really frustrates me is that we're already dealing with health conditions that make everyday tasks challenging, and then we have to endure this anxiety-inducing bureaucratic nightmare on top of it all. The fact that there's essentially no real tracking system in 2025 for something so critical to people's survival is just mind-boggling. But honestly, finding this community discussion has been more informative and supportive than anything I could find on the official SSA website. Reading everyone's real timelines and experiences has helped me understand that the glacial pace is unfortunately normal, even if it's incredibly stressful. I'm definitely going to try the local office approach if I need to check on my status, and I'm trying to limit myself to checking the portal just once a week instead of daily! Thank you all for sharing your stories and creating such a supportive environment for those of us just starting this overwhelming journey.
This is incredibly useful information! I'm 65 and just enrolled in Medicare Part B but haven't filed for SS yet (waiting until my FRA at 67). I had no clue about the 3-month advance payment system or the potential overlap issue. The fact that your refund took 5 months but happened automatically is both frustrating and reassuring at the same time. I'm definitely going to start keeping detailed records of all my premium payments - dates, amounts, confirmation numbers, the works. It's also good to know that this shows up as a separate deposit rather than being added to regular benefit payments, since I might not have connected the dots otherwise. Thanks for taking the time to share this experience and for all the helpful follow-up in the comments. This is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that you can't find in any official SSA documentation!
You're absolutely right about it being both frustrating and reassuring! I'm in a similar situation - just turned 65 last month and enrolled in Medicare Part B while planning to delay SS until my FRA. The 3-month advance payment thing was definitely a surprise when I got my first bill. After reading through this entire thread, I feel much better prepared now. I'm going to start a simple tracking system right away - maybe just a basic spreadsheet with payment dates, amounts, and confirmation numbers. It's actually kind of comforting to know that so many people go through this exact same process and that the system does eventually sort itself out, even if SSA's timeline is... well, very relaxed! Thanks for adding your experience to this thread - the more real-world examples we have, the better prepared we can all be for this transition.
This is so helpful! I'm 64 and will be enrolling in Medicare when I turn 65 in a few months, but planning to delay SS until 70. I had no idea about the 3-month advance payment requirement or this overlap issue. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like the key is keeping detailed records and being patient with SSA's processing times. I'm definitely going to set up a tracking system for all my premium payments from day one - dates, amounts, confirmation numbers, and screenshots of my Medicare account. It's reassuring to know the system automatically catches these overlaps eventually, even if it takes 5+ months. Thanks for sharing this real-world experience - this kind of practical information is impossible to find in the official documentation but so valuable for planning ahead!
You're being really smart to plan ahead like this! I'm 66 and just went through this exact situation last year - the 5-month wait was definitely nerve-wracking at first, but seeing that deposit appear was such a relief. One thing I'd add to your tracking system: make sure to note the exact premium amounts each month, because sometimes Medicare adjusts rates mid-year and you want to be able to verify SSA calculated everything correctly. Also, don't panic if your refund amount seems slightly different than expected - sometimes there are small adjustments for things like late enrollment penalties that get factored in. The waiting is the hardest part, but the system really does work eventually!
Jamal Wilson
This is exactly the kind of systemic issue that makes dealing with SSA so exhausting for people who are already struggling with disabilities. I'm a social worker and see this concurrent benefits confusion constantly - it's like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing at SSA. What really gets me is how this puts the burden on vulnerable people to become experts in federal benefits law just to get what they're legally entitled to. Your brother shouldn't have to fight this hard for money that's rightfully his. A few practical suggestions from my experience helping clients through similar situations: - Document everything in writing (which it sounds like you're already doing) - If you hit roadblocks with reconsideration, consider contacting your state's Protection and Advocacy agency - they specialize in disability rights and often have direct lines to SSA supervisors - Some legal aid offices have specific SSA benefits units that handle these exact types of administrative errors The good news is that once you get the right person who understands concurrent benefits, this should be resolved quickly. But it's absolutely unacceptable that people have to jump through these hoops in the first place. Hang in there - you're fighting the good fight for your brother.
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Amina Toure
•Thank you so much for the perspective from someone working directly with clients facing these issues, Jamal. It's both validating and heartbreaking to hear that this is such a common problem. You're absolutely right that people shouldn't have to become benefits law experts just to get what they're entitled to. I really appreciate the suggestion about the state's Protection and Advocacy agency - I hadn't heard of that resource before. Having direct lines to SSA supervisors sounds incredibly valuable, especially when you're dealing with representatives who don't seem to understand the rules around concurrent benefits. The legal aid suggestion is great too. I've been focused mainly on working directly with SSA, but having professional advocates who specialize in these administrative errors could save us a lot of time and frustration. It's encouraging to hear from your experience that once we get the right person, this should resolve quickly. Sometimes when you're in the middle of these battles, it feels like it's going to drag on forever. Thanks for the reminder to hang in there - we're definitely not giving up on getting my brother what he's owed.
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Vera Visnjic
I'm so sorry your brother is dealing with this frustrating situation! As someone who recently went through a similar concurrent benefits approval process, I can tell you that what the SSA told him is completely wrong. You absolutely CAN and SHOULD receive backpay from both programs when you're approved for concurrent SSI and Social Security disability. The fact that SSI already did their calculation correctly (reducing their payment to account for his Social Security benefit) proves that both programs recognize the legitimacy of both benefits. Social Security has no legal basis to deny backpay simply because he's receiving SSI. This sounds like a classic case of an undertrained representative who doesn't understand how Title II and Title XVI benefits work together. I'd suggest asking to speak with a supervisor immediately, and definitely get everything in writing. Don't let them brush you off with vague explanations - demand specific policy citations for why they think SSI receipt eliminates Social Security backpay eligibility. Your instincts are absolutely right that something is wrong here. Keep pushing - your brother deserves every penny of that backpay!
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