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Working 2 jobs - what's the max 401k contribution I can make for both?

I'm getting more confused by the minute with all the different info online, hoping someone here can clear things up for me. **Job 1: Full-time W2 position** - currently maxing out my 401k contribution at $22,500. My employer adds another $5,300 on top. So all together that's $27,800. **Job 2: Part-time W2 contract work** (not C2C or 1099) **Here's what I'm trying to figure out: Can I set up a second 401k through my Job 2? And if I do, is my contribution limit still capped at $22,500 total across both jobs?** Job 2 doesn't offer any matching benefits. Also wondering if a backdoor ROTH or 401k would make sense in my situation? The tax implications are making my head spin đŸ˜”â€đŸ’«

The IRS limit for employee 401k contributions in 2025 is $22,500 across ALL your 401k accounts combined. This is YOUR contribution limit regardless of how many employers you have. So if you've already maxed out $22,500 at Job 1, you can't contribute any more to a 401k at Job 2. However, there's an important distinction: the overall 401k limit (combined employee + employer contributions) is $68,500 for 2025 PER PLAN. This means each 401k plan can receive up to $68,500 total. So theoretically, if Job 2 offers a 401k, you could contribute $0 (since you've maxed out at Job 1), but your Job 2 employer could still contribute up to the $68,500 limit for that plan. But since you mentioned Job 2 doesn't match, this probably doesn't help you.

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Wait I'm confused - so the $22,500 limit is per person not per job? I always thought each job had its own separate 401k limit! So if I have 3 jobs, I still can only put in $22,500 total across all of them? What about the catch-up contributions if you're over 50?

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The $22,500 limit is definitely per person, not per job. Think of it as the government limiting how much tax-advantaged retirement saving YOU can do, regardless of how many employers you have. It's a common misconception that each job has its own separate limit. If you're age 50 or older, you can make additional catch-up contributions of $7,500 in 2025, bringing your personal total to $30,000 across all 401k plans. This catch-up amount is also per person, not per plan.

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Since you're maxing out your 401k already, you might also want to get clarity directly from the IRS. I was in a similar situation and was getting mixed advice until I finally got through to an actual IRS agent using Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). They have this service where they basically wait on hold with the IRS for you and then call you when an agent is on the line. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was shocked it actually worked because I had been trying to get through to the IRS for weeks! The agent confirmed the exact contribution limits for my situation with multiple W-2 jobs and cleared up my confusion about the backdoor Roth too.

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How does this Claimyr thing actually work? Do you have to give them your personal info? Seems sketchy to have someone else calling the IRS for you.

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This sounds like a complete scam. The IRS won't talk to random people about your tax situation. They would need authorization. And if it did work, they'd probably just tell you to read the publication online anyway.

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Don't forget about other options! If you've maxed out your 401k, you could also look at: 1. Traditional or Roth IRA (subject to income limits) 2. HSA if you have a high deductible health plan (triple tax advantage) 3. Taxable brokerage accounts 4. If Job 2 offers it, after-tax 401k contributions that can be converted to Roth (Mega Backdoor) The backdoor Roth IRA you mentioned would be relevant if your income exceeds the limits for direct Roth contributions. Basically you contribute to a non-deductible Traditional IRA and then convert it to Roth.

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Thanks for laying out these options! My MAGI is around $160k, so I'm over the Roth IRA income limits. I have an HSA already but hadn't considered the mega backdoor route. Does Job 2 need to specifically offer after-tax 401k contributions for that to work? Or can any 401k plan be used for a mega backdoor?

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With a MAGI of $160k, you're definitely over the Roth IRA income limits, so a backdoor Roth makes perfect sense for you. For the mega backdoor Roth, your employer's 401k plan needs to specifically allow after-tax (not just Roth) 401k contributions AND in-service distributions or in-plan Roth conversions. Not all plans offer this feature. You'll need to check with Job 2's benefits administrator to see if their plan allows after-tax contributions beyond the $22,500 limit, up to the total $68,500 cap (minus any employer contributions). If they do, it could be a great additional tax-advantaged space for you.

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Has anyone mentioned the Solo 401k option? If your Job 2 contractor position could be considered self-employment income, you might be able to open a Solo 401k for that income stream. The employee contribution limit would still be $22,500 TOTAL across all plans, but you could make employer contributions as the "employer" of your contracting business.

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This doesn't apply to OP since they specifically said they're W2 for both jobs, not 1099 or C2C. Solo 401k only works for self-employment income. A W2 contractor is still an employee, just on contract terms.

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One thing that might help clarify your backdoor Roth situation - since you're at $160k MAGI, you'll want to check if you have any existing Traditional IRA balances before doing a backdoor Roth. The pro-rata rule can create unexpected tax consequences if you have pre-tax IRA money sitting around. Also, for your Job 2 situation, even though you can't contribute more to a 401k (since you've maxed the $22,500 limit), if they offer a 401k plan, you might want to enroll anyway just to keep your options open. Sometimes employers add benefits or matching later, and you'd already be set up. Quick question - is your Job 1 employer contribution the full $5,300 or could there be room for more if you had additional income? Some plans calculate matching based on total compensation across the year.

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