< Back to IRS

Amina Diallo

Withholding for 4 jobs - How to handle Pub. 505 Table for multiple employment?

I'm juggling four different jobs right now and trying to figure out the right tax withholding. My main job is full-time with regular hours and predictable paychecks, but the other three are part-time and seasonal. The hours and pay for these three jobs bounce around like crazy depending on the time of year. I've been stuck trying to use the IRS W4 estimator online because I can't predict with any certainty what my hours, pay periods, or total income will be for those three variable jobs. Instead, I've been looking at the tables on page 4 of the W4 form to get a rough estimate, but I'm not sure if I'm doing this right. The instructions on the W4 tables seem aimed at people with more predictable income streams. Has anyone dealt with withholding for multiple jobs when most of them have inconsistent schedules and pay? I don't want to end up owing a ton when tax time rolls around for 2025, but I also don't want to have way too much withheld throughout the year.

Oliver Schulz

•

This is actually a common situation that the standard W4 calculator doesn't handle very well. For multiple jobs with variable income, Publication 505 provides more comprehensive guidance than just the W4 tables. Since your main job has consistent income, treat that as your "highest paying job" in the W4 tables. For the three variable jobs, you have a couple options: First, you could use the Multiple Jobs Worksheet from the W4 instructions, but estimate the annual income for your variable jobs based on your best guess of what you'll make this year. If you earned similar amounts last year, that can be a starting point. Alternatively, a more precise approach would be to request additional withholding on your main job's W4 to cover the expected tax from all your part-time jobs. To calculate this amount, estimate your expected annual income from all three part-time jobs, determine the approximate tax rate for your total income bracket, and divide by the number of pay periods at your main job. Remember that slight underwithholding isn't a disaster - you just need to stay within the safe harbor rules (90% of current year tax or 100% of prior year tax, 110% if your AGI exceeds $150,000) to avoid penalties.

0 coins

Thanks for the explanation. Quick question - if I use the alternative method you mentioned, how do I determine my "approximate tax rate"? Is that just looking at tax brackets, or is there a specific calculation? Also, should I include Medicare and Social Security in this calculation or just federal income tax?

0 coins

Oliver Schulz

•

For determining your approximate tax rate, look up the federal income tax bracket that your total income from all jobs will likely fall into. For example, if you expect your total income will be in the 22% bracket, use that as your approximate rate. This is simplified but gives you a reasonable estimate. You only need to focus on federal income tax for this calculation. Medicare and Social Security taxes are flat rates that are already correctly withheld from each job separately (6.2% for Social Security up to the wage base limit and 1.45% for Medicare), so they don't need to be adjusted like income tax does when you have multiple jobs.

0 coins

After struggling with a similar multiple job situation, I discovered https://taxr.ai which really helped me solve this withholding puzzle. Last year I had 3 jobs (1 full-time, 2 seasonal) and ended up owing nearly $3,000 because my withholding was way off. The W4 tables just don't work well for variable income. I uploaded my paystubs from all jobs into taxr.ai and it analyzed my current withholding across all jobs together. It showed me exactly how much additional withholding I needed on my main job's W4 to stay balanced throughout the year. The tool recalculates as my income from seasonal jobs changes, so I can adjust my withholding as needed. It also explained why the standard W4 calculator wasn't working for my situation - apparently having multiple jobs with variable income creates specific withholding issues that the standard tables don't address well.

0 coins

Wait, can it actually handle the variable income aspect? My second job sometimes pays me $2,000 in a month, other times only $400. How would the system know what to predict for future months?

0 coins

Emma Wilson

•

I'm skeptical about these online tools. How does it handle privacy? I'm not comfortable uploading my pay information to some random website. Does it keep all my financial data?

0 coins

It handles variable income by allowing you to update your information throughout the year. You can start with your best estimate, and as you receive more paystubs from your variable jobs, you upload those and it recalculates based on your year-to-date earnings plus projections. I found it much more flexible than the W4 calculator because it adjusts to your changing situation. Regarding privacy concerns, they use bank-level encryption and don't store your raw financial documents after processing. They only keep the calculated tax information needed for your withholding estimates. I was hesitant too initially, but their privacy policy explained that they don't sell or share your data with third parties. You can also delete your account and all associated data anytime.

0 coins

Emma Wilson

•

I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after trying it. Despite my initial privacy concerns, I decided to give it a shot since my withholding situation with multiple jobs was such a mess. The tool actually helped me identify that I was significantly underwithholding at my main job while overwithholding at my two part-time positions. I was able to adjust my W4 at my primary employer to request an additional $87 per paycheck in withholding, which should cover what I'll owe from my other jobs. What surprised me was how it factored in the variable income. You can set different scenarios for your seasonal work, and it calculates what your withholding should be even with fluctuating income. Definitely worth checking out if you're in this multiple job situation - saved me from repeating last year's surprise tax bill.

0 coins

Malik Davis

•

If you're still struggling after trying to figure out your withholding, getting through to the IRS for personalized help might be your best bet. I spent weeks trying to calculate my withholding for multiple jobs using Pub 505 tables last year and still got it wrong. I eventually used https://claimyr.com to get through to an IRS representative after trying for days to call them myself. They have this video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they hold your place in the IRS phone queue and call you when an agent is about to answer. The IRS agent walked me through exactly how to fill out my W4 forms for my specific situation with multiple jobs. Having an actual IRS employee explain how to handle variable income across several jobs was incredibly helpful - they knew exactly which tables in Pub 505 applied to my situation and how to use them correctly.

0 coins

Amina Diallo

•

How does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? I've tried calling the IRS multiple times and always get the "call volumes are too high" message.

0 coins

This sounds like a scam. Why would I pay someone to call the IRS for me? And why would the IRS agents give different information to them versus what's in their publications? Sounds like you're just promoting a service.

0 coins

Malik Davis

•

They don't call the IRS for you - they use technology to hold your place in the phone queue. When you sign up, they start the call to the IRS and use an automated system to stay on hold. When an IRS agent is about to pick up, they call your phone and connect you directly to the IRS agent. You're the one who actually speaks with the IRS, not them. I understand the skepticism - I felt the same way initially. The IRS agents don't give different information, but they can apply the general guidelines in publications to your specific situation. Publications like 505 contain lots of different tables and worksheets for various scenarios, and an agent can help identify which ones apply to your particular circumstance with variable income from multiple jobs. It saved me hours of research and confusion.

0 coins

I need to follow up on my previous comment. After struggling for three weeks to get through to the IRS myself (calling at all different times, always getting the "high call volume" message), I broke down and tried Claimyr. I'm honestly shocked at how well it worked. I got connected to an IRS representative within 2 hours of setting it up. The agent looked up my specific situation and walked me through exactly which withholding tables in Publication 505 to use given my four different income sources. For anyone with complicated withholding situations spanning multiple jobs with variable income, getting direct guidance from the IRS is incredibly valuable. The agent explained that when you have three or more jobs, especially with variable income, the standard W4 tables often don't provide accurate withholding calculations. She directed me to a specific worksheet in Publication 505 designed for multiple jobs with uneven income throughout the year.

0 coins

Ravi Gupta

•

Have you considered just setting aside a percentage of your income from the variable jobs instead of trying to get the withholding perfect? That's what I do with my seasonal work. I have 20% automatically transferred to a separate savings account from each variable paycheck, then I have that money available at tax time if needed. Way simpler than messing with all those withholding calculations!

0 coins

Amina Diallo

•

I like this approach but how did you determine that 20% is the right amount? I'm in the 22% federal bracket plus 5% state tax, so should I be setting aside 27% to be safe? Do you ever end up with too much in your tax savings account?

0 coins

Ravi Gupta

•

I landed on 20% after a few years of trial and error. I'm also in the 22% federal and about 4% state bracket, but remember you don't pay at your highest rate for all income - it's progressive. My effective tax rate usually works out to around 15-16% total, so 20% gives me a small buffer. I typically do end up with a little extra in my tax savings account after filing, which I then use to treat myself to something nice as a reward for good financial planning! Last year I had about $800 left over and took a weekend trip. You could start with 25% if you want to be extra cautious, then adjust next year based on what you learn this tax season.

0 coins

GalacticGuru

•

Has anyone used the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator for variable income? The IRS website claims it can handle multiple jobs, but I found it frustrating to use when my income changes frequently.

0 coins

I tried using it last year with my 3 jobs (1 full-time, 2 part-time with variable hours). The estimator works OK if you update it every time your income changes, but that became a part-time job itself! I had to go in almost monthly to update with new paystubs and projections.

0 coins

Omar Fawaz

•

Don't overlook quarterly estimated payments as another option! If your variable jobs don't withhold enough, you can make quarterly payments directly to the IRS to avoid a big bill (and potential penalties) at tax time. I use this approach for my side gigs and it works well with unpredictable income.

0 coins

MidnightRider

•

I'm in a very similar situation with multiple jobs and variable income! One thing that's helped me is keeping detailed records of my income patterns from each job throughout the year. I created a simple spreadsheet tracking weekly earnings from each position, which helps me identify seasonal patterns and make better projections. For the withholding calculation, I found that using a conservative approach works best - I calculate my expected total annual income using slightly higher estimates for my variable jobs, then use that total in the Publication 505 worksheets. This way I tend to slightly overwithhold rather than underwithhold. Also, consider updating your W4 at your main job mid-year if your variable income is tracking significantly higher or lower than expected. Most payroll departments are used to employees adjusting their withholding, especially those with multiple income sources. It's much easier to make a mid-year adjustment than to deal with a large tax bill or refund at filing time.

0 coins

Luca Ferrari

•

This is really helpful advice! I'm completely new to dealing with multiple jobs and tax withholding, so I appreciate the practical approach. Quick question - when you say "conservative approach with slightly higher estimates," how much higher do you typically estimate? Like 10% more than you think you'll actually make, or is there a better rule of thumb? Also, how often do you update that spreadsheet - weekly or just when you notice your income patterns changing significantly?

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,087 users helped today