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Will SSA Overpayment Take My Tax Refund? Monthly Payments Already Suspended

Hey everyone - I'm in a bit of a mess w/ Social Security. Apparently I've got an overpayment situation and they're already taking my entire SS check ($1800/mo) to recover it. Now I'm worried abt my tax refund too! Anyone know if the IRS will take my refund for this SSA overpayment when I've already got my monthly pmts suspended? This is getting ridiculous tbh. I'm a senior on fixed income and this whole situation is stressing me out!

Quinn Herbert

Have you received any official notices from the Treasury Offset Program? That's usually how they inform you about potential tax refund offsets. And what type of overpayment is this - was it due to working while collecting, or some other reason? The specific details might affect whether they can take both your monthly benefits and your tax refund at the same time. Do you know the total amount of the overpayment they're claiming?

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Salim Nasir

Per the Treasury Offset Program regulations, they absolutely can take both. I had this happen to me in March 2023. My monthly benefits were reduced AND my tax refund was seized. The notice came just 2 weeks before my refund was scheduled to arrive. There's a specific timeframe they have to notify you - I believe it's 60 days before offset, but they don't always follow it perfectly.

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Hazel Garcia

Wow, I had no idea they could double-dip like that! And here I thought the tax system was complicated... Social Security rules are like trying to solve a Rubik's cube blindfolded. 😵

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Laila Fury

I went through something similar last year. Had an overpayment of around $4,200 due to unreported income (my part-time job that I didn't realize would affect benefits). They took my monthly payment AND my tax refund. I called SSA about 8 times before getting someone who explained that there are actually two separate collection systems at work: SSA collections (for your monthly benefits) and Treasury Offset (for tax refunds). They don't talk to each other automatically.

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Geoff Richards

This is a situation I see quite often with retirees. Just like how the IRS can garnish wages for tax debt, they can intercept tax refunds for other federal debts like SSA overpayments. In your case, it's more complex than usual since they're already taking your monthly payment. If you have your most recent SSA notice or your annual tax transcript, you might want to check out https://taxr.ai - it can analyze your tax documents and help identify if there's an offset indicator. Much like how some people get a CP14 notice for tax debt, your transcript might show specific codes that indicate an impending offset. This could give you time to address it before filing.

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Simon White

I'm a bit wary of using third-party services with my financial info. Has anyone here actually used this tool? Does it really tell you anything you can't find out by just calling SSA directly?

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Hugo Kass

I appreciate this suggestion! • Is it secure to upload tax documents? • Does it specifically flag Social Security issues? • Can it show potential offsets before they happen?

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Nasira Ibanez

I used taxr.ai last month when dealing with a similar situation. Here's what worked for me: 1. Upload your tax transcript (you can get this from IRS.gov) 2. It flagged code 898 on my account which indicated a pending offset 3. I was able to file a request for review before my refund was processed 4. This bought me time to work out a payment plan The key is acting before your return is processed - once it's in the system, it's much harder to stop an offset.

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Khalil Urso

As of January 15, 2024, the Social Security Administration is required to notify you before offsetting your tax refund. Based on my experience, you should have received Form SSA-L8151 if your refund is at risk. Since your benefits are already being withheld, you might qualify for a hardship reduction. I'd recommend calling SSA directly to request a review of your case. If you've been trying without success, consider using Claimyr (https://www.claimyr.com) - I used them on March 3rd and got through to an SSA representative in under 30 minutes instead of waiting for hours or days.

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Myles Regis

Is this just another pay-to-play service? Seems wrong that we have to pay extra just to access government services our taxes already fund. Has anyone confirmed this actually works and isn't just taking advantage of desperate people?

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Brian Downey

I believe they're referring to a service that helps you navigate the phone system, not one that charges for actual government services. It's more like paying someone to wait in line for you, rather than paying for the service itself.

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Jacinda Yu

I used Claimyr last month when dealing with an offset issue. Called SSA directly for 3 days straight and couldn't get through. Used the service and got connected in about 25 minutes. The rep I spoke with was able to set up a repayment plan that let me keep part of my tax refund. Worth every penny in my situation.

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Landon Flounder

Have you considered filing Form SSA-632 (Request for Waiver of Overpayment Recovery)? If the overpayment wasn't your fault and repayment would cause financial hardship, they might waive it entirely. But isn't there a deadline for filing this form? I believe you need to submit it within 60 days of receiving the overpayment notice. Also, while they're reviewing your waiver request, they should temporarily stop collection efforts - both the monthly benefit reduction and potential tax refund offset.

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Callum Savage

I think I can help clarify your situation. When you have an SSA overpayment, there are typically two separate collection methods that may be used: 1. Direct reduction of your monthly benefits (which you're already experiencing) 2. Tax refund offset through the Treasury Offset Program (TOP) In most cases, if your overpayment is significant, SSA may utilize both methods simultaneously. However, you do have rights and options here. You can request a payment plan, file for a waiver, or request a reconsideration if you believe the overpayment determination was incorrect. I would recommend contacting SSA directly to discuss your specific situation and perhaps request a lower monthly withholding amount based on financial hardship. This won't necessarily stop a tax refund offset, but it might make your monthly situation more manageable while you work through this.

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Ally Tailer

Think of SSA overpayments like having two different collectors for the same debt. Your monthly benefits reduction is like having money taken directly from your paycheck, while the tax refund offset is like having your bank account garnished. Just because they're taking from one source doesn't mean they can't also take from the other. It's like trying to plug holes in a leaking boat - stopping one leak doesn't prevent water from coming in through another hole. Your best approach is to address the entire debt situation rather than just focusing on protecting your refund.

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Aliyah Debovski

Under the Treasury Offset Program (TOP), the Bureau of Fiscal Service is authorized to reduce or withhold any eligible federal payment to satisfy delinquent debt. This includes tax refunds AND monthly Social Security benefits simultaneously. There's no statutory prohibition against concurrent collection methods. You should immediately request an SSA-632 Waiver form and complete an SSA-634 Request for Change in Repayment Rate form. Submit both with detailed financial documentation showing hardship.

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Miranda Singer

Does filing these forms automatically stop them from taking the refund while they're reviewing the case?

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Cass Green

Filing the forms doesn't automatically stop collection, but you can specifically request a temporary suspension of collection while your request is being reviewed. This needs to be explicitly stated in writing when you submit the forms.

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Finley Garrett

How long does the review process typically take? My tax refund is supposed to come in the next few weeks.

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Madison Tipne

Be careful. I ignored my SSA overpayment notices. They took my entire refund last year. Then my monthly benefits too. No warning about the refund. Just gone. Check your mail carefully. Look for notices from Treasury, not just SSA. Different departments. Different notices. Easy to miss.

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Holly Lascelles

To clarify a point that might be confusing: The Social Security Administration (SSA) and the Treasury Department's Bureau of Fiscal Service (BFS) operate separate collection systems. SSA handles the reduction of your monthly benefits, while BFS manages the Treasury Offset Program that can take your tax refund. This is why you might experience both actions simultaneously - they're administered by different agencies, even though they're collecting for the same debt.

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