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Alina Rosenthal

Wife doesn't have a Social Security Number yet - can we still file taxes jointly this year?

We're in a bit of a situation with our taxes this year. My wife is still in the middle of her immigration process and doesn't have either a Social Security Number or an ITIN yet. We got married last summer and I'd really like to file jointly for the first time. Her immigration attorney suggested that we should go ahead and file jointly anyway, and in the spot where you're supposed to put her Social Security Number, he said to write something instead (he was about to tell me what exactly to write but then got interrupted by a call and never finished explaining). Has anyone dealt with this before? Can I actually file jointly without her having a Social or ITIN? And if so, what am I supposed to write in that field? I'm worried about delaying our return since I'm expecting a decent refund this year. Any advice would be appreciated!

Finnegan Gunn

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You'll need to get your wife an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) if she doesn't have a Social Security Number. This is specifically designed for tax filing purposes for non-citizens who can't get an SSN. To do this, you'll need to file Form W-7 (Application for IRS Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) along with your tax return. You'll attach the W-7 to your joint tax return and write "APPLIED FOR" in the space where her SSN would go on the 1040. Make sure you have proper documentation - you'll need original documents or certified copies from the issuing agency (like a passport) to prove her identity. The processing time can take up to 7 weeks during tax season, so your refund will be delayed until the ITIN is assigned.

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Miguel Harvey

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If we submit the W-7 with our joint return, do we need to mail everything in? Or can we still e-file somehow? Also, do both of us need to sign the W-7 or just my wife?

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Finnegan Gunn

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You'll need to mail in your tax return with the W-7 attached - unfortunately you can't e-file when applying for an ITIN. Only your wife needs to sign the W-7 form since she's the one applying for the ITIN, but both of you will need to sign the actual tax return since you're filing jointly.

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Ashley Simian

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Oliver Cheng

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How long did it take to get the ITIN after you submitted everything? I'm in a similar boat and wondering how delayed our refund might be.

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Taylor To

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Did you have to send in your spouse's original passport? That's what's making me nervous - I don't want her important documents sitting somewhere for months.

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Ashley Simian

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It took about 6 weeks from when we mailed everything in to get the ITIN assigned, and then another 2-3 weeks after that to get our refund. So definitely expect some delay compared to normal e-filing. Regarding the passport, yes, that was a concern for us too. You can either send the original passport (which I wasn't comfortable with) OR you can get a certified copy from an IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center. We made an appointment at our local IRS office, brought the original passport, and they certified a copy for us that we could submit with the application. Taxr.ai actually told us about this option which saved us a lot of worry.

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Taylor To

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Ella Cofer

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Savannah Glover

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Felix Grigori

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Just wanted to add - if your wife is in the process of adjusting status, she might be eligible for a Social Security Number already. Has she filed Form I-765 (Application for Employment Authorization)? If she gets approved for work authorization, she'll get an SSN which is much better than an ITIN for long-term purposes. If her I-765 is already pending, you might want to wait until she gets her SSN before filing. But if that's going to be months away, then the ITIN route makes sense.

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Alina Rosenthal

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She did file the I-765 but we're still waiting for approval. Her lawyer thinks it could be another 3-4 months based on current processing times. Sounds like we should probably go the ITIN route for now and then just use her SSN next year?

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Felix Grigori

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Yes, that's exactly what I'd recommend. Go ahead with the ITIN application for this year's taxes, and then next year you can use her SSN once she receives it. The IRS will automatically link her ITIN with her SSN in their systems once both exist, so there shouldn't be any issues with the transition. It's very common for immigrants to start with an ITIN and then switch to an SSN later.

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Felicity Bud

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One thing nobody mentioned - if your wife had ANY U.S. income last year, you MUST get her an ITIN and file. But if she had zero U.S. income (and no income from foreign investments), you actually have another option: you could file as "Married Filing Separately" for this year using just your info, and then start filing jointly next year once she has her SSN. The downsides are you'll probably pay more in taxes filing separately, and you'll miss out on some credits. But it would let you file electronically now and get your refund faster without waiting for ITIN processing.

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Max Reyes

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This is not entirely accurate. Even if the spouse had no income, you still need either an SSN or ITIN to claim them on a joint return. The IRS won't process a joint return without a taxpayer ID for both spouses regardless of income.

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I just went through this exact process last month! The advice about getting an ITIN is correct - you'll need to file Form W-7 with your joint return and write "APPLIED FOR" where her SSN would go. One thing I learned the hard way: make sure you have ALL the required documentation ready before you submit. The IRS is very strict about what they'll accept for identity verification. Original documents or certified copies from the issuing agency only - no photocopies or notarized copies. Also, consider timing carefully. If you're expecting a large refund, the 6-8 week delay for ITIN processing might be worth it for the tax savings of filing jointly. But if the refund is small and you need the money soon, filing separately might make more sense this year. The good news is this is a one-time hassle - once she gets her SSN through the immigration process, future tax years will be much simpler!

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Jade Santiago

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Thanks for sharing your experience! This is really helpful. Quick question - when you say "certified copies from the issuing agency only," does that mean we'd have to contact her home country's embassy to get certified copies of her passport? Or can the IRS office certify copies like someone mentioned earlier? I'm trying to avoid having to mail her original passport if possible.

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You have a few options for the certified copies! The IRS Taxpayer Assistance Centers can certify copies of original documents for ITIN applications - this is actually the safest route since you don't have to mail originals. You can also use an IRS-authorized Certifying Acceptance Agent (CAA) who can review your original documents and certify copies for you. Some embassies/consulates can also provide certified copies, but the IRS office route is usually faster and more convenient. Just call ahead to make an appointment at your local IRS office - they're usually pretty good about accommodating ITIN document certification requests.

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I'm actually going through this same process right now with my husband who's on a K-1 visa. We decided to go the ITIN route after consulting with a tax professional. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here is to double-check the mailing address when you send in your W-7 and tax return. The IRS has specific addresses for ITIN applications that are different from regular tax return processing centers, and using the wrong address can add weeks to your processing time. Also, keep copies of EVERYTHING you send - not just photocopies, but actually scan or photograph every page before mailing. The IRS has been known to lose documentation occasionally, and having digital copies makes it much easier to resend if needed. We're about 4 weeks into the process now and haven't heard anything yet, but based on what others are saying, we're prepared to wait the full 6-8 weeks. The peace of mind of filing jointly and getting the better tax treatment is worth the wait for us, especially since we're expecting a decent refund too.

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Oliver Becker

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This is really great advice about keeping digital copies of everything! I'm just starting this process and hadn't thought about scanning everything before mailing. Quick question - when you say the IRS has specific addresses for ITIN applications, do you know if this information is clearly stated on the W-7 form instructions? I want to make sure I don't mess up something as basic as the mailing address and cause unnecessary delays.

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Andre Rousseau

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Yes, the W-7 instructions do include the specific mailing addresses, but they can be a bit confusing because there are different addresses depending on whether you're filing from within the US or abroad, and whether you're including a tax return or just applying for an ITIN standalone. For most people filing a joint return with the ITIN application, you'll use the Austin Processing Center address. Just make sure to read the instructions carefully - it's in Section 4 of the W-7 form instructions. I'd also recommend using certified mail or a trackable shipping method so you have proof of delivery. The last thing you want is for your documents to get lost in the mail!

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Aria Park

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I went through this exact situation two years ago when my wife was waiting for her green card approval. The ITIN route is definitely the way to go if you want to file jointly this year. A few additional tips from my experience: 1. When you write "APPLIED FOR" in the SSN field, make sure it's clearly written and legible - I've heard of returns getting kicked back for unclear notations. 2. Consider getting your documents certified at an IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center before mailing. We did this and it gave us peace of mind knowing we weren't sending originals through the mail. You can find locations on the IRS website and most will do same-day certification. 3. If you're in a hurry for your refund, you might want to calculate the difference between filing jointly vs. separately first. In our case, the tax savings from filing jointly was significant enough to justify waiting the extra 6-8 weeks. 4. Keep detailed records of when you mailed everything. The IRS customer service reps will ask for specific dates if you need to call about delays. The whole process took about 7 weeks for us from mailing to receiving our refund, so definitely factor that timeline into your plans. But it's totally worth it - we've been filing jointly ever since she got her SSN and it's saved us thousands in taxes over the years.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you for sharing all these detailed tips! I'm especially glad you mentioned calculating the difference between filing jointly vs. separately first - I hadn't thought to run those numbers before deciding which route to take. The point about writing "APPLIED FOR" clearly is also great advice. I can imagine how frustrating it would be to have everything delayed just because of unclear handwriting. Did you happen to use any specific tax software that handles the ITIN application process well, or did you prepare everything manually? I'm trying to figure out the best way to make sure I don't miss any steps in the process.

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