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Can I file back taxes with new social security number after having ITIN?

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a tax mess right now. I need to file returns for 2019 and 2020 so I can get approved for an IRS payment plan. My situation is complicated because my wife just received her social security number this year after having an ITIN since she moved to the US. We already submitted our 2023 taxes using her new social, but I'm confused about the older returns. When I try to use the free file software for 2019 and 2020, it asks if both spouses have a social security number authorized for employment. I'm not sure what to answer since during those years she only had an ITIN. To make matters worse, we got hit with a huge tax bill for 2017 and 2018 because her ITIN had expired, and we were denied certain credits. That's actually why we need this payment plan in the first place. Does anyone know how to handle filing back taxes when a spouse's identification number has changed from an ITIN to a SSN? I'm worried about making another mistake and digging ourselves into an even deeper hole.

Mei Wong

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You should use whatever identification number your wife had during those tax years. For 2019 and 2020, that would be her ITIN, not her new social security number. The tax form is asking about your status during those specific tax years - not your current status. When completing those back tax returns, you'll need to answer "no" to the question about both spouses having a social security number authorized for work, since she only had an ITIN at that time. This means you likely won't qualify for certain credits, like the Earned Income Credit, for those years - but that's the correct way to file. Also, make sure her ITIN hasn't expired for those years you're filing. If it has, you'll need to submit a W-7 form to renew it along with your back tax returns.

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Liam Sullivan

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Does that mean they'll never be able to claim those credits for those years, even though she has a social now? That seems unfair if she was legally working but just waiting on the paperwork.

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Mei Wong

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Unfortunately, that's correct. Tax credits like the Earned Income Credit generally require both spouses to have valid social security numbers during the tax year in question. Getting a social security number later doesn't retroactively qualify you for credits from previous years. The IRS considers your status at the time the tax year ended. It may seem unfair, but that's how the tax code is written. The good news is that for 2023 and future tax years, they'll now qualify for these credits since both spouses have valid social security numbers.

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Amara Okafor

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StarStrider

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Has anyone actually had success getting an IRS payment plan after filing back taxes? I'm in a similar situation (owed about $12,400) and I'm worried they'll reject my request. How much do they typically let you pay per month?

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Ava Martinez

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I got a payment plan last year for about $9,000. If you owe less than $50,000, it's pretty straightforward. I'm paying $175/month. You can apply online through the IRS website once all your returns are filed. The interest keeps accruing though, so pay as much as you can afford.

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Thanks for sharing that! $175 seems doable. Did they verify your income or expenses before setting that amount, or did you get to choose how much to pay each month? I'm worried they'll want more than I can afford right now.

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Ava Martinez

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For the simple online payment plans, they let you choose your monthly amount as long as the total will be paid within 72 months. They didn't verify my income for that plan. If you can't afford the minimum payment for the 72-month plan, you'll need to apply for a different type of agreement where you have to provide financial information (Form 433-F). They'll determine your payment based on your income minus allowable expenses. It's more paperwork but could get you a lower monthly payment if you truly can't afford the standard plan.

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Miguel Ramos

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Quick tip for anyone filing back taxes with ITIN/SSN issues - print out copies of everything before you mail it! My returns got "lost" twice and having copies saved me from having to redo all that work. Also consider paying for tracking when you mail returns to the IRS.

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QuantumQuasar

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Also make sure you're mailing to the right IRS address! They have different processing centers depending on your state and what forms you're filing. I sent mine to the wrong place and it added months to the process.

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Sara Unger

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I went through almost the exact same situation last year! My husband transitioned from ITIN to SSN in 2022, and we had to file back taxes for 2018-2020. Here's what I learned from working with a tax professional: 1. Use the ITIN for those tax years (2019-2020) since that's what was valid then 2. Make sure to check if the ITIN was still valid for those years - if it expired, you'll need to renew it first 3. Include a cover letter explaining the ID number change to avoid processing delays 4. You're right that you won't qualify for certain credits like EIC for those years, but that's unfortunately how the system works For the payment plan, make sure all your returns are filed and processed first. The IRS won't approve a payment plan until they have all required returns on file. Once everything is processed, you can apply online if you owe less than $50K total. One thing that helped us was getting a tax transcript for each year to confirm our returns were properly processed before applying for the payment plan. You can request these online through the IRS website. Good luck - I know how stressful this whole process is, but you'll get through it!

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StellarSurfer

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now. Quick question - when you mention including a cover letter explaining the ID number change, did you attach this to each tax return you mailed in, or just send it once with all the returns together? Also, how long did it take for your returns to show up on the tax transcripts after you filed them? I'm trying to plan out the timeline for getting my payment plan set up.

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Andre Laurent

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@e7127ccef07c I included the cover letter with each return I mailed - basically a one-page explanation that my spouse's identification changed from ITIN to SSN after the tax year ended, so the return reflects the ID number valid at that time. I figured it was better to be redundant than have one return get separated from the explanation. For timing, it took about 8-10 weeks for the returns to show up on my tax transcripts after I mailed them (this was during tax season though, so processing was slower). I'd recommend checking your transcripts every few weeks once you hit the 6-week mark. One heads up - even after the returns showed on the transcripts, it took another 2-3 weeks for the online payment plan system to recognize that all my returns were filed. The IRS systems don't always sync up immediately. I ended up calling (well, using one of those callback services someone mentioned above) to confirm everything was ready before applying for the payment plan. The whole process from mailing returns to getting payment plan approval took about 4 months for me, but now I have peace of mind knowing everything is properly handled!

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