Why doesn't my Roth IRA contribution decrease my federal taxes in tax software?
I'm feeling really confused about something with my taxes this year. I was planning to contribute about $5000 to a Roth IRA thinking it would eliminate the roughly $800 I owe in federal taxes. But when I entered the Roth contribution in my tax software, my tax amount due didn't change at all! For context, I'm an independent contractor doing food delivery, which is why my federal tax bill is relatively low to begin with (the $0.655 per mile deduction helps a ton with that). I thought I'd qualify for the Saver's Credit since my income is on the lower side, and I was expecting to get that 50% credit up to $1000. But nothing changed in the software. Can anybody explain what's happening? Are there situations where the Saver's Credit doesn't apply? Or is my tax software just not calculating it correctly? I'm totally stumped and would appreciate any insights!
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Diego Vargas
The issue you're running into is that Roth IRA contributions don't directly reduce your taxable income - they're made with after-tax dollars. What you're likely thinking of is the Retirement Savings Contributions Credit (Saver's Credit), which is separate. For the Saver's Credit to apply, your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) needs to be within certain limits. For 2025 filing season, the 50% credit rate applies if your AGI is $24,000 or less for single filers. If your income is above that threshold, the credit percentage drops to 20% or 10%, and then phases out completely at higher income levels. Another important point: the Saver's Credit is non-refundable, meaning it can only reduce your tax liability to zero - it can't generate a refund. If your tax liability before the credit is very low or zero (which can happen with independent contractors who have significant mileage deductions), then the credit won't have much or any impact.
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Anastasia Fedorov
•Wait, so if someone's tax liability is already really low because of other deductions, the Saver's Credit might not help at all? That seems unfair for lower-income people. Also, does it matter if it's a traditional IRA vs Roth? Would one be better than the other in this situation?
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Diego Vargas
•The Saver's Credit is designed to incentivize retirement savings, but you're right that its non-refundable nature means those with very low tax liability get less benefit. That's just how this particular credit works - it can reduce your taxes to zero but no further. Regarding traditional vs. Roth IRAs, they affect your taxes differently. Traditional IRA contributions may be tax-deductible now (reducing your current taxable income), while Roth contributions are made after-tax but grow tax-free. If your tax liability is very low, a traditional IRA might actually help more in the short term by reducing your taxable income, potentially giving you a larger tax benefit now. However, Roth IRAs have benefits for long-term tax-free growth that might be more valuable depending on your situation.
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StarStrider
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Sean Doyle
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Zara Rashid
•Does it actually show you the specific IRS rules that apply to your situation? I've been burned before by tax software that just gives answers without explaining why.
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StarStrider
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Zara Rashid
Just wanted to update after checking out taxr.ai. It was actually really helpful for my situation! I input my info and it immediately identified that my mileage deductions had already reduced my tax liability below what the Saver's Credit could help with. But the cool part was it suggested splitting my retirement contributions - putting some in a traditional IRA to lower my AGI enough to qualify for a partial Earned Income Credit I was missing. The side-by-side comparison showing different scenarios made it super clear why my Roth contribution wasn't helping with taxes. Ended up switching to a 70/30 split between traditional and Roth, which saved me about $650 this year while still giving me some tax-free growth for the future. Much better than the "nothing happens when I enter numbers" experience I was getting with my regular tax software!
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Zara Rashid
Just wanted to update after checking out taxr.ai. It was actually really helpful for my situation! I input my info and it immediately identified that my mileage deductions
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Luca Romano
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Mateo Hernandez
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CosmicCruiser
Have you checked if you're actually eligible for the Saver's Credit? The income limits are pretty low. For 2025 taxes, I think you need AGI below $36,500 if you're filing as single to get any credit at all, and below $24,000 for the 50% rate. Maybe your AGI is over the limit? Also, check if the software is applying the credit on Form 8880. Sometimes the credit gets calculated but doesn't show up in the summary pages.
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Chloe Anderson
•Thanks for this! I just double-checked and my AGI is actually around $25,200 after all my mileage deductions, so I should qualify for at least the 20% rate. I looked at Form 8880 specifically and found that the software IS calculating the credit (about $300), but it's being applied against a tax liability that was already reduced to almost nothing by my self-employment deductions. So basically, I can't use most of the credit because there's no tax left to offset. Guess I need to learn more about how non-refundable credits work!
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CosmicCruiser
•Glad you figured it out! Yeah, that's the tricky thing about non-refundable credits - they can only reduce your tax to zero, not below zero. So if your self-employment deductions already brought your tax liability very low, the Saver's Credit doesn't have much work to do. For next year, you might want to consider splitting your retirement contributions between Roth and traditional. The traditional contribution will lower your AGI, which could potentially increase your Earned Income Credit if you qualify for that. It's a balancing act between current tax benefits and future tax-free growth.
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Aisha Khan
I had a similar issue but with a SIMPLE IRA through my job. What finally fixed it for me was entering my W-2 income first, THEN entering the retirement contribution. When I did it the other way around, the software didn't apply the credit correctly for some reason. Might be worth trying different sequences of entering information?
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Ethan Taylor
•Software sequencing issues can definitely cause problems! I've also found that sometimes closing the program completely, restarting, and then re-entering certain information can trigger the software to recalculate things properly. Tax software can be really finicky.
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