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Sasha Reese

The math isn't adding up for a single individual with $58,000 income according to IRS website

I'm really confused about my taxes this year. I've been trying to figure out how much I'll owe based on the IRS website calculations, but something seems off. I'm single, making about $58,000 annually, and I've been using the IRS tax tables and calculators to estimate my federal tax liability. When I plug my numbers into the IRS calculator, the amount it tells me I should owe doesn't match what I'm calculating manually using their own tax brackets and rates. I've tried multiple times, using different methods, but I keep getting different results. Has anyone else noticed this discrepancy? Am I missing something obvious like a deduction or credit that the calculator automatically applies? I've checked my math several times and I'm starting to think either I'm completely misunderstanding how to calculate my taxes or there's something wrong with the information on the IRS website. I just want to make sure I'm paying the correct amount - not too much and definitely not too little!

What you're experiencing is actually pretty common! The IRS calculations can seem confusing because there are several factors at play beyond just the tax brackets. For a single filer with $58,000 income, here's what's probably happening: The IRS calculator is likely factoring in the standard deduction automatically (which is $13,850 for single filers in 2023, and will be higher for 2024/2025). This means you're not actually being taxed on the full $58,000, but rather on your taxable income after the standard deduction is applied. So if your taxable income is around $44,150 ($58,000 minus $13,850), that puts you in the 22% bracket - but remember, you don't pay 22% on ALL your income. You pay 10% on the first portion, then 12% on the next portion, and 22% only on the amount that falls within that bracket. Are you calculating using the progressive tax brackets or applying a single percentage to your entire income? That's often where the confusion comes from.

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Noland Curtis

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But doesn't the calculator also take into account things like the Earned Income Credit? I make about the same as OP and my actual tax rate ends up being way lower than what the brackets suggest because of various credits. Maybe that's where the difference is coming from?

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The standard deduction definitely makes a big difference in your final tax bill, and you're right that tax credits can further reduce what you owe. Credits are different from deductions because they directly reduce your tax bill dollar-for-dollar, rather than just reducing your taxable income. The Earned Income Credit is typically for lower income levels than $58,000 for a single person, so that specific credit probably wouldn't apply in OP's case. However, there could be other credits like education credits, retirement savings contributions credit, or energy efficiency credits that might be automatically calculated.

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Isabel Vega

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I think people miss that the tax bracket percentage is only applied to the income within that bracket, not your total income. So for 2023, a single filer pays: - 10% on the first $11,000 - 12% on income from $11,001 to $44,725 - 22% on income from $44,726 to $95,375 With $58,000 income, minus the $13,850 standard deduction = $44,150 taxable income. So that's: $1,100 (10% of the first $11,000) + $4,038 (12% of the next $33,725) = $5,138 in federal income tax That's about 8.9% of your total income, even though you're in the 22% bracket.

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Your calculation is missing the 22% portion. If taxable income is $44,150, and the 22% bracket starts at $44,725, they'd still be in the 12% bracket entirely - but if their taxable income is slightly higher due to using 2024/2025 numbers, there might be a small amount taxed at 22%. Can you double check your math?

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Isabel Vega

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You're absolutely right - I made an error in my calculation. Since the taxable income of $44,150 is still within the 12% bracket (which goes up to $44,725), they wouldn't have any income taxed at 22% yet. So the correct calculation would be: $1,100 (10% of the first $11,000) + $3,978 (12% of the remaining $33,150) = $5,078 in federal income tax That's about 8.8% of the total $58,000 gross income. This illustrates even better how your effective tax rate is much lower than your marginal tax rate, which is probably causing the confusion for the original poster.

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Marilyn Dixon

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Did anyone consider that maybe the IRS calculator is including self-employment tax? If any of that $58,000 is from self-employment, you'd owe an additional 15.3% on that portion for Social Security and Medicare taxes. That could make a HUGE difference in the final number.

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This is a really good point. When I was calculating taxes on my self-employment income last year, I kept getting confused because I was forgetting that SE tax. On $58k of pure self-employment income, you'd owe about $8,200 JUST in self-employment tax, before even calculating regular income tax!

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This is such a common source of confusion! I went through the exact same thing when I first started doing my own taxes. The key thing that helped me understand the discrepancy was realizing that the IRS online calculators often include assumptions about your filing status, deductions, and credits that you might not be accounting for in your manual calculations. A few things to double-check: 1. Are you using the correct tax year's brackets and standard deduction amounts? 2. Do you have any pre-tax deductions from your paycheck (like health insurance, 401k contributions, HSA contributions) that reduce your taxable income before the standard deduction is even applied? 3. Are you eligible for any tax credits that the calculator might be automatically including? Also, if you're getting a W-2, your employer has already been withholding taxes throughout the year based on your filing status and allowances, so your actual tax owed might be different from what you calculate as your total tax liability. The IRS calculator might be showing you what you still owe or your refund amount rather than your total tax. Try using the IRS's Interactive Tax Assistant tool - it walks you through step by step and explains each calculation, which might help you identify where the discrepancy is coming from.

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Nia Watson

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This is really helpful! I think you hit on something important about pre-tax deductions that I hadn't considered. I've been calculating based on my gross salary but completely forgot that my employer deducts health insurance premiums and 401k contributions before calculating my taxable income. That could easily account for a few thousand dollars difference right there. The Interactive Tax Assistant sounds like exactly what I need - I didn't even know that existed on the IRS website. Thanks for breaking this down so clearly!

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