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Can I get the Saver's Credit if I made 401k contributions and then rolled over to an IRA? TurboTax says no?

I've been really confused about my eligibility for the Saver's Credit this year. Here's my situation: For 2024, my earned income was $25,641. I contributed $2,105 to my 401k before leaving my job back in May (no other retirement contributions after that). Then I rolled over $4,179 from that same 401k into an IRA. My AGI before the 401k distribution was $25,641. From what I understand about the Saver's Credit eligibility for 2024: - I'm over 18 years old ✓ - Not a full-time student ✓ - Nobody claims me as a dependent ✓ - Made retirement contributions during this tax year ✓ - Income requirement: I made less than the $36,500 threshold as a Single Filer ✓ Based on my research, since I made between $24,500 and $26,800, I should be eligible to claim 20% of my $2,105 contribution to the 401k. This would give me a tax credit of about $421. However, when I'm going through TurboTax, it's telling me I don't qualify for the Saver's Credit, even though it shows my contribution amount during the process. Could this be happening because the total distribution I took for the rollover exceeds what I contributed? Looking at Form 8880, it seems this might be the issue. What I don't understand is this: the money was directly rolled into another qualified retirement plan (the IRA). Shouldn't the type of distribution matter? Does any distribution at all disqualify you from claiming the credit, even if it's non-taxable? Any help would be really appreciated! Let me know if you need any additional information.

The issue is most likely related to how Form 8880 (Saver's Credit form) handles distributions. Even though your rollover was to another qualified account and wasn't taxable, Form 8880 still counts it as a distribution that reduces your eligible contributions. Line 4 of Form 8880 requires you to enter the total distributions you received from qualified retirement plans. This includes ANY distributions - even direct rollovers to other qualified plans - received during the tax year AND the two preceding tax years. These distributions reduce your eligible contribution amount dollar-for-dollar. So even though you contributed $2,105, your $4,179 rollover is considered a distribution that exceeds your contribution, effectively reducing your eligible contribution amount to $0 for the Saver's Credit calculation. This is why TurboTax is saying you don't qualify. It's one of those frustrating tax situations where the intent of the law (encouraging retirement savings) doesn't align perfectly with the mechanics of the form. The IRS doesn't distinguish between taxable distributions and non-taxable rollovers for this specific credit.

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Wait, so even though the rollover wasn't taxable, it still counts against you for the Saver's Credit? That seems really unfair! Is there any workaround for this situation? Like what if OP had waited until the next tax year to do the rollover?

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Yes, unfortunately the Form 8880 doesn't distinguish between taxable and non-taxable distributions when reducing eligible contributions. The IRS is looking at all money moving out of retirement accounts, regardless of where it goes. If OP had waited until January 2025 to do the rollover, they could have claimed the Saver's Credit for their 2024 contributions because the distribution wouldn't have occurred in the same tax year as the contributions. Timing is definitely important with this credit.

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Does taxr.ai actually give different answers than TurboTax for something like this? I'm curious because I've had similar issues with credits that TurboTax says I don't qualify for, but I think I should.

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I've heard of this site but I'm a little skeptical. Can it really find things that TurboTax misses? Also, does it actually help with planning for future tax years or just explaining current year stuff?

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It doesn't necessarily give different answers than TurboTax for eligibility, but it explains WHY you're eligible or not in much clearer detail. For this specific Saver's Credit issue, it breaks down exactly how Form 8880 treats different types of distributions, which helped me understand why my rollover was affecting my credit. For planning future tax years, it's been super helpful. After analyzing my situation, it showed me how waiting just one month to do my rollover would have preserved my Saver's Credit eligibility. It also runs scenarios for different contribution amounts and timing to maximize credits and deductions going forward.

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Just to add another data point - I had this exact same issue last year with a 403(b) rollover to an IRA. Unfortunately, TurboTax is correct here. When I called the IRS, they confirmed that ANY distribution counts on Line 4 of Form 8880, even if it's a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer that isn't taxable. The weird part of this rule is that you're essentially being penalized for moving your retirement money around, even when you're keeping it in the retirement system. I think the rule exists to prevent people from gaming the system by withdrawing and recontributing the same money multiple times to claim multiple credits. One thing to consider for the future - if you leave a job mid-year, you might want to keep your 401k where it is until January of the following year, then do your rollover. That way your distribution won't impact your Saver's Credit eligibility for the contributions you made during your employment.

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Thanks for confirming this! It's really frustrating that the rollover counts against me even though I kept the money in retirement accounts. I wish TurboTax had explained WHY I didn't qualify instead of just saying I don't. Do you know if the distributions from previous years also reduce this year's eligible contributions? Like if I took a distribution in 2023, does that affect my 2024 Saver's Credit?

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Yes, unfortunately distributions from previous years do affect your current year's Saver's Credit. Form 8880 looks at distributions from the current tax year AND the two previous tax years. So any distributions you took in 2022, 2023, and 2024 will all reduce your eligible contributions for the 2024 Saver's Credit. This "lookback period" is specifically designed to prevent people from taking money out and putting it back in to claim the credit repeatedly.

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I'm still a bit confused about how the timing works. If I'm planning to roll over a 401k from an old employer in 2025, should I do it in January to avoid messing up my Saver's Credit for 2025? Or does it matter when in the year I do it?

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The timing absolutely matters! If you want to maximize your Saver's Credit eligibility for 2025, here's what you should consider: First, remember that Form 8880 counts distributions from the current tax year plus the two preceding years. So for your 2025 tax return, the IRS will look at distributions from 2023, 2024, and 2025. If you're planning to make contributions to retirement accounts in 2025 and want to claim the Saver's Credit, ideally you would avoid taking any distributions (including rollovers) during all three of those years. But since you need to roll over your old 401k, the timing of when you do it in 2025 doesn't matter for your 2025 Saver's Credit - any rollover during 2025 will count against your 2025 credit.

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That makes sense! So basically once I do a rollover, I'm potentially affecting my Saver's Credit for that tax year regardless of which month I do it in. I think I'll try to make all my 2025 contributions before doing any rollovers, at least that way I'll know exactly how much I've contributed when calculating if the rollover wipes out my eligibility completely.

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