Why do I suddenly owe money to the IRS after entering my second W2?
So I just finished entering both of my W2s from the same company (they switched payroll processors mid-year) and I'm really confused why I now owe the IRS money. After entering the first W2, everything looked fine, but as soon as I put in the second one, boom - I owe money! The weird thing I noticed is that despite making way more on the second W2, they withheld almost the same amount for federal taxes. On my first W2, I earned $12,485 with $572 withheld for federal tax. On my second W2, I earned $19,438 with only $665 withheld. Is this because the new payroll company messed up my withholdings? I'm fine paying what I owe, but I want to understand why this happened so I can avoid it next year. Did they calculate my withholding incorrectly or something?
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Sophie Footman
This is a classic withholding calculation issue that happens when you have multiple W-2s, especially from the same employer with different payroll systems. Each payroll system calculates withholding as if that's your only income for the year. So neither system knew about the other income when determining how much to withhold. The second payroll processor withheld at approximately the same rate as the first because it didn't "know" about your other income. When you file your taxes, the IRS combines all your income and calculates your total tax obligation based on that combined amount. Since our tax system is progressive (higher rates for higher income brackets), the tax on your combined income is higher than the sum of what would be calculated separately. To avoid this next year, you should submit a new W-4 form to your employer requesting additional withholding. You can specify an extra dollar amount to be withheld from each paycheck to cover the difference.
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Connor Rupert
•Thanks for explaining that! How do I figure out exactly how much extra to have withheld on my W-4? Is there like a calculator somewhere? I'm terrible at math lol
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Sophie Footman
•Yes, the IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website that can help you figure out the right amount. You can find it by searching "IRS withholding calculator." It asks questions about your income, filing status, and other tax situations to help recommend how to fill out your W-4. Another approach is to take the amount you owe this year, divide it by the number of pay periods remaining in the year, and request that much additional withholding on line 4(c) of your W-4. For example, if you owe $600 and get paid twice a month (24 pay periods), you might request an additional $25 per paycheck.
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Molly Hansen
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Brady Clean
•Does it work with other tax documents too? I have some 1099s and investment stuff that always confuses me.
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Molly Hansen
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Brady Clean
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Vincent Bimbach
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Kelsey Chin
•How does that even work? The IRS phone system is literally designed to be impenetrable lol
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Norah Quay
•Sounds like BS honestly. Nobody gets through to the IRS. Their hold times are like 3+ hours minimum and they hang up on you constantly. You probably just got lucky with timing.
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Vincent Bimbach
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Norah Quay
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Leo McDonald
This happens to A LOT of people! The payroll systems don't talk to each other. Your total income for the year puts you in a higher tax bracket, but each individual W-2 was withholding as if that was your only income for the year. Here's a super simplified example: - First $10k you earn might be taxed at 10% = $1,000 in taxes - Next $10k might be taxed at 12% = $1,200 in taxes - So $20k total income should have $2,200 withheld But if each payroll system thinks you're only making $10k total for the year, they each withhold only $1,000, for a total of $2,000 withheld. That leaves you $200 short when you file!
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Daniel Rivera
•Omg that makes so much sense explained that way! So basically neither payroll system knew my "true" tax bracket because they only saw part of my income. Is there any way I could have prevented this during the year?
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Leo McDonald
•Exactly! You've got it. To prevent this in the future, you have a few options: You can fill out a new W-4 form and give it to your employer. On line 4(c), you can specify an additional amount to withhold from each paycheck. Calculate approximately how much you're short for the year and divide by your remaining paychecks. Another option is to check your withholding midway through the year using the IRS Withholding Estimator tool online. It helps you see if you're on track and suggests adjustments. Some people in this situation also make quarterly estimated tax payments directly to the IRS to cover the shortfall, but adjusting your W-4 is usually simpler.
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Jessica Nolan
Your probably in a higher tax bracket now with both incomes combined. Its like the govt thinks your making less than you are when each W2 gets procesed separately so they take less tax. Then when you combine them its like "surprise you make more than we thought so give us more money now!" I had this same problm last year when I had two jobs. My tax guy said to always check the "withhold at higher single rate" box on your W4 if you have multiple income sources or just put an extra $50 per check in the "additional withholding" line. Saves the surprize bill in April!
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Angelina Farar
•This is good advice but the W-4 form doesn't have a "withhold at higher single rate" box anymore. They completely redesigned the W-4 in 2020. Now you need to use the "Multiple Jobs" worksheet or just put the additional amount on line 4(c).
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