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Ravi Gupta

Why do I owe money to IRS after 10 years? Is there a statute of limitations?

I just got the most confusing letter in the mail yesterday from the IRS claiming I owe them money from my 2012 tax return. Like... what??? I thought there was a 10-year statute of limitations on tax debt collection? It's literally 2025 now, so that's MORE than 10 years ago. The letter looks official but honestly I'm wondering if it's some kind of scam. I don't even remember what I filed back then - that was three jobs and two apartments ago! I thought once you hit that 10-year mark, you're in the clear. The letter is asking for $2,840 plus some penalties and interest. Has this happened to anyone else? Is there actually some loophole to the 10-year rule I don't know about? I'm freaking out a little because I definitely don't have extra cash lying around right now.

Tax professional here. The 10-year statute of limitations for IRS collections is real, but there are several situations that can extend or "toll" that time period. The 10 years actually starts from the date of assessment (when the IRS officially records the tax debt), not from the tax year or filing date. Common reasons the collection period gets extended include: filing for bankruptcy, submitting an offer in compromise, requesting a Collection Due Process hearing, living outside the US for at least 6 months, or the IRS filing a lawsuit. Any of these can pause the clock, sometimes adding years to the collection period. First thing you should do is request a detailed account transcript from the IRS to verify this is legitimate and see exactly when the assessment was made. You can get this online through the IRS website or by filing Form 4506-T. Then check if any of those "tolling events" might have occurred in your situation.

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When you say "assessment date," how do I find out when that happened? Would it be on the letter they sent me? Also, I did file bankruptcy in 2016 but didn't think it affected my taxes since they weren't part of the discharge.

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The assessment date should be on your account transcript - that's why I recommend requesting one as your first step. It will show the original assessment date along with any subsequent activity on your account. Your bankruptcy in 2016 definitely would have tolled (paused) the statute of limitations. Even if your taxes weren't discharged, the IRS is prohibited from collection activities during bankruptcy proceedings, so the 10-year clock stops running during that time. Depending on how long your bankruptcy lasted, this could have added months or even years to the collection period.

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Did taxr.ai actually help resolve the issue or just explain it? I'm curious because I've got a similar situation but with a CP2000 notice from 3 years ago that I thought was resolved.

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How does this work with identity theft situations? I had someone file a return using my SSN back in 2015, and I'm still occasionally getting weird notices that I think are related to that.

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It didn't resolve the issue automatically, but it gave me the exact information I needed to handle it properly. The analysis showed which forms to file and pointed out that I qualified for a first-time penalty abatement that saved me about $800. It basically gave me a roadmap for resolving everything. For identity theft situations, it has a specific module for analyzing those cases. It can detect discrepancies between legitimate returns and fraudulent ones, then generate the documentation you need to submit to the IRS to prove the fraud. The system actually flagged a mismatch in my W-2 reporting that I hadn't even noticed.

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Update on my situation: I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and wow - it actually sorted out my identity theft confusion! Uploaded my notices and it immediately flagged that the collection attempt was tied to a fraudulent return from 2015. It generated a complete explanation with timeline showing how the statute of limitations was being incorrectly applied because the IRS had mixed up the fraudulent return with my legitimate one. I printed out the analysis and documentation package it created and sent it to the IRS last month. Just got confirmation yesterday that they've cleared the debt completely! Would have taken me forever to figure this out on my own or paid hundreds to a tax pro. Definitely worth checking out if you're in a similar messy situation with old tax issues.

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If you need to actually talk to someone at the IRS about this (which you probably do), good luck getting through on your own. I spent THREE WEEKS trying to reach someone about a similar statute of limitations issue. Finally used https://claimyr.com after seeing it recommended here, and they got me connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent confirmed that my bankruptcy had extended the collection statute date by 2.5 years. Would have been nice to know that before I ignored several notices! At least I got it sorted before they put a lien on my house. The call wait service really saved me from what would have been a much bigger headache.

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How does this calling service actually work? Do they just keep redialing until they get through? I've wasted hours on hold just to get disconnected.

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Sounds like a scam to me. No way they can magically get through when the IRS phone lines are constantly jammed. They probably just take your money and leave you hanging.

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They use an automated system that continuously redials the IRS and navigates the phone tree until it gets into the queue, then it calls you when it reaches a human agent. You're not paying for someone to wait on hold - it's a technology solution that monitors the call and alerts you when there's an actual person to talk to. I was skeptical too, but they don't charge if they don't get you through to an agent. I thought it might be a scam at first, but they just handle the hold time part - you still talk directly to the IRS yourself. The agent I spoke with said they're seeing a lot of calls coming through this service because the wait times are so ridiculous otherwise.

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I stand corrected about Claimyr! After my skeptical comment, I actually tried it myself out of desperation when I couldn't get through about my own tax notice. It legitimately worked - got a call back in about 35 minutes and was connected to an IRS representative who was able to explain everything about my case. Turns out my collection statute had been extended because I had requested an installment plan back in 2015 and then moved overseas for work in 2017-2018, both of which paused the 10-year clock. The IRS rep even helped me set up a minimal payment plan since I acknowledged the debt was legitimate. Saved myself from potentially having my tax refunds seized going forward.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - check if the notice you received is actually from the IRS! There are TONS of tax scams that look like official IRS letters. Real IRS notices always have a notice number (like CP501 or LT11) in the upper right corner and always include info about your appeal rights. Never call phone numbers listed in the letter - instead call the main IRS number (800-829-1040) to verify it's legit. And the IRS never demands immediate payment via gift cards, wire transfers, or cryptocurrency, which is a dead giveaway for scams.

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Thanks for mentioning this! The letter does have a notice number (CP504) and there's info about appeal rights. I looked it up and CP504 is a "Final Notice of Intent to Levy" which is freaking me out even more. Does this mean they're about to take money from my accounts?

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A CP504 is indeed a legitimate IRS notice and it's basically warning you that they may levy (seize) your assets or tax refunds if you don't address the debt. However, it's not actually the final notice before levy despite what the title suggests. Before they can actually levy your bank accounts or wages, they must send you a "Final Notice of Intent to Levy and Notice of Your Right to a Hearing" (Letter 1058 or LT11) and give you 30 days to request a Collection Due Process hearing. The CP504 is serious, but you still have time and options before any levies would occur. This would be a good time to contact the IRS to discuss resolution options like a payment plan or making a dispute if you believe the assessment is incorrect.

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I've been through exactly this with old tax debt. Here's what worked for me: 1) Get your account transcripts for that tax year 2) File Form 12277 "Application for Withdrawal of Filed Notice of Federal Tax Lien" if they've filed a lien 3) Consider an Offer in Compromise if you can't pay the full amount 4) Look into "Currently Not Collectible" status if you're facing financial hardship The IRS can be reasonable if you're proactive. Just ignoring it is the worst thing you can do. And if you've had major life events like job loss, medical issues, etc., mention those when you contact them - sometimes they take hardship into consideration.

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For the "Currently Not Collectible" status, what kind of documentation do they require? I've been unemployed for 9 months and there's no way I can pay my tax debt.

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