Why am I getting hit with 'underpayment penalty' when I'm filing taxes before April 18 deadline?
I'm in the middle of doing my taxes through H&R Block and I'm confused about something. The software is telling me I owe an 'underpayment penalty' on my stock sales from last year. Here's what I don't understand - I thought I had until April this year to file AND pay any taxes I owe? I made several profitable stock trades throughout last year (about $12,500 in capital gains total), but I didn't pay any taxes at the time of the sales. Was I supposed to be paying taxes after each profitable sale? The H&R Block software isn't explaining this penalty at all, and now I'm worried I did something wrong. I was planning to just pay whatever I owed when I filed before the deadline, but now there's this extra penalty showing up. Can anyone help me understand why I'm getting hit with an underpayment penalty even though I'm filing before the due date? Really appreciate any insight!
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Mateo Martinez
The underpayment penalty is confusing for many people! While you do have until April to file your return and pay any remaining balance, the U.S. tax system is actually "pay-as-you-go." This means the IRS expects you to pay taxes as you earn income throughout the year, either through withholding from paychecks or through quarterly estimated tax payments. When you have income that doesn't have taxes withheld (like stock sales with capital gains), you're supposed to make estimated tax payments quarterly. These deadlines are typically April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. The underpayment penalty is essentially a fee for not paying enough taxes throughout the year. You can avoid the penalty if you: - Pay at least 90% of the tax for the current year, or - Pay 100% of the tax shown on your return for the prior year (110% if your AGI was over $150,000
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Nia Wilson
•Oh wow, I had no idea about the quarterly payments! So even though I'm filing and paying before the April deadline, I'm still getting penalized for not making those quarterly payments throughout the year? Is this penalty usually a lot? And is there any way to get it waived since I honestly didn't know about this requirement?
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Mateo Martinez
•The penalty amount depends on how much you underpaid and for how long. It's calculated using an interest rate that the IRS sets quarterly, but it's generally not enormous - often around 3-5% of the underpaid amount spread over the quarters you missed. Unfortunately, lack of knowledge about tax requirements typically isn't grounds for waiving the penalty. However, the IRS does have a first-time penalty abatement policy where they might waive the penalty if you haven't had any penalties in the previous three tax years and you've filed all required returns and paid (or arranged to pay) any tax due. You can request this after you receive a penalty notice from the IRS.
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Aisha Hussain
I ran into this exact same issue last year after making some nice gains on Tesla stock. After reading through IRS publications and talking with different people, I discovered a really helpful tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that analyzes your situation and explains these penalties in plain English. What I like about taxr.ai is that it explained WHY I was getting hit with the underpayment penalty and gave me options for what to do about it. It breaks down the calculation so you can see exactly how the penalty is determined and if there are any exceptions that might apply to your situation. It also helped me set up proper estimated payments for this year so I don't get hit with penalties again.
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Ethan Clark
•Does taxr.ai actually connect with the IRS or is it just an information tool? I'm wondering if it can actually help reduce the penalty or just explain why you got it.
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StarStrider
•I'm always skeptical of these tax tools... How is this different from what H&R Block or TurboTax already provides? They all seem to just follow the same IRS formulas.
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Aisha Hussain
•It doesn't connect directly with the IRS - it's more like having a tax expert analyze your specific situation. It helped me understand which of the safe harbor provisions I could use to avoid penalties in the future and walked me through exactly how much I needed to pay each quarter based on my expected income. It's different from H&R Block or TurboTax because it focuses specifically on solving problems like penalties and notices rather than just filing your return. It also explains things in much more detail than the big tax software does. I was getting frustrated with how little explanation H&R Block provided about the penalty, which is why I tried this instead.
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Ethan Clark
Just wanted to update after checking out taxr.ai that was mentioned earlier. I was also getting hit with an underpayment penalty (about $245) and was confused because I filed early. The tool explained that I had two options: either pay 90% of current year tax throughout the year OR 100% of last year's tax (which would have been easier to calculate). I didn't know about the "prior year safe harbor" rule. Turns out if I had just made estimated payments equal to my previous year's tax liability, I wouldn't have gotten the penalty at all, even with higher income this year! Now I've set up quarterly payments for this year based on their recommendation. Super helpful and way clearer than what my tax software was telling me.
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Yuki Sato
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Carmen Ruiz
•Wait how does this even work? Why would paying a service get you through the IRS phone line faster than calling directly? That doesn't make sense.
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StarStrider
•This sounds like a scam. Why would anyone pay money just to talk to the IRS? There's probably a free number or time of day you can call without waiting as long.
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Yuki Sato
•It uses a callback system that holds your place in line for you. When you call the IRS directly, you're stuck listening to that terrible hold music for hours. This service monitors the hold for you and calls you when it's about to connect with an agent. It saves you from having to stay on the phone the whole time. I was skeptical too, but after wasting an entire afternoon on hold and getting disconnected twice, I was desperate. The IRS is severely understaffed - there's no "good time" to call anymore. Even their scheduled callback option is often unavailable because they're too backed up. It was worth it to me to finally get answers about my penalty situation.
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StarStrider
I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After getting disconnected THREE TIMES trying to call the IRS myself about my underpayment penalty, I gave in and tried it. Within 20 minutes I was talking to an actual IRS representative who explained I qualified for the first-time penalty abatement since I hadn't had any issues the last three years. The agent walked me through Form 843 for requesting the abatement and told me exactly what to write in the explanation section. They also helped me set up estimated payments for this year so I don't get hit with another penalty. Honestly saved me both the penalty amount (around $320) and probably 5+ hours of frustration. Sometimes it's worth admitting when you're wrong!
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Andre Lefebvre
Just to add some useful info about estimated tax payments for anyone who didn't know (like I didn't until I got hit with this penalty too): For 2025, the quarterly estimated tax payment due dates are: - 1st quarter: April 15, 2025 - 2nd quarter: June 16, 2025 - 3rd quarter: September 15, 2025 - 4th quarter: January 15, 2026 You can make these payments online through the IRS Direct Pay system or through the EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System). I set calendar reminders now so I don't forget!
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Nia Wilson
•This is super helpful, thank you! Do you know if the underpayment penalty applies if you miss just one quarterly payment, or only if your total payments for the year are too low?
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Andre Lefebvre
•The penalty is calculated on a quarterly basis, so technically you could be penalized for each quarter you underpay, even if your total for the year would have been enough. The IRS looks at each period separately. However, if you make uneven payments (like if you have seasonal income or one-time stock sales), you can use the "annualized income installment method" on Form 2210. This lets you calculate payments based on when you actually received the income during the year instead of paying equal amounts each quarter.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if most of your income is from W-2 employment, you can also adjust your withholding at your job instead of making separate estimated payments. I did this after getting hit with an underpayment penalty on some stock gains last year. I just submitted a new W-4 to my employer with additional withholding specified on line 4(c). I calculated how much extra I needed withheld for the year based on my expected capital gains, divided by remaining pay periods, and put that amount. Way easier than remembering quarterly payments!
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Jamal Anderson
•That's a smart approach! Do you need to know exactly how much your stock gains will be at the beginning of the year for this to work?
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Charity Cohan
•You don't need to know exactly, but you should have a reasonable estimate. I track my trading activity throughout the year and adjust my withholding as needed. If I realize I'm going to have more gains than expected, I can submit an updated W-4 to increase withholding for the remaining pay periods. If I overestimate, I just get a bigger refund. The key is making sure you hit at least the safe harbor amount (100% of prior year tax or 110% if your AGI was over $150k) to avoid penalties.
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