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Natasha Kuznetsova

What's the most effective way to ask the IRS to waive a late filing penalty?

Hey everyone, I could use some advice here. I started an LLC in Ohio last year with my brother as the only two partners. We've been using the same tax guy for about 10 years with no problems until now. I dropped off all my paperwork to my accountant in early March, and he filed everything electronically on April 12th. Just got a letter from the IRS yesterday saying I owe a $820 penalty for filing partnership taxes late. From what I can tell, they're charging each partner $205 per month late. Since there's two of us, that's how they got to $820 (2 partners × 2 months × $205). When I called my accountant about it, he basically shrugged it off saying "Well, partnership returns were due March 15th, and I couldn't file an extension because you didn't give me authorization." What? We've worked together for a decade and talk all the time! Also confused how being less than a month late somehow counts as 2 months in IRS math. Anyway, he told me that I need to handle requesting the penalty waiver myself – not him. He mentioned I could write a letter or call them, but warned about being on hold forever if I call. So my questions are: 1) Should I write a letter or suck it up and call the IRS to ask for the penalty waiver? 2) What should I actually say? This is my first LLC, I had a communication issue with my accountant, but I'm not sure if I should just apologize or try to make a case for why it wasn't my fault. I've got until June 5th to respond, but want to get this resolved ASAP. Any advice would be really appreciated!

I've worked in tax resolution for years, and this is definitely something you can handle yourself. For a first-time penalty like this, the IRS often grants what's called "First-Time Penalty Abatement" if you have a clean compliance history (which sounds like you do if you've never had issues before). For the fastest resolution, I'd recommend calling the IRS at the number on your notice. While you might be on hold for a while, you'll get an immediate decision in most cases. Have your notice, EIN, and tax return information handy when you call. When you speak with the representative, simply explain that this was your first year with an LLC, there was confusion about filing deadlines, and you've always filed and paid on time previously. Be polite but direct in asking for the "First-Time Penalty Abatement" specifically. If you prefer writing, send a letter referencing your notice number and specifically request first-time penalty abatement. Include that you've had a history of compliance and this was your first partnership return. Mail it to the address on your notice with certified mail so you have proof of delivery.

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Thanks for the advice! I've never heard of "First-Time Penalty Abatement" before - that's super helpful. Do you think it matters that technically it wasn't my first year filing taxes, just my first year with an LLC partnership return? And is there any specific language I should use when I call besides mentioning the First-Time Penalty Abatement?

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What matters is that it's your first time filing that specific type of return (partnership return), so you should still qualify for the First-Time Penalty Abatement. The IRS recognizes that different business entities have different filing requirements that can catch new business owners off guard. When you call, simply be straightforward: "I'm calling to request First-Time Penalty Abatement for my late-filed partnership return. This was my first year with an LLC partnership, I was unaware of the March 15th deadline, and I have a history of timely filing and payment for all my previous tax obligations.

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I was in a similar situation last year when I missed filing my 1065 for my new LLC on time. I spent hours trying to call the IRS but kept getting disconnected or waiting forever. Then I found this service called taxr.ai at https://taxr.ai that helped me draft a penalty abatement letter. Their system analyzed my situation and generated a formal request letter citing all the relevant IRS penalty abatement provisions. I just had to provide some basic info about my tax situation and penalty details. The letter they created looked super professional and included all the right legal language about reasonable cause and first-time abatement eligibility. I mailed it certified mail to the IRS with copies of the penalty notice, and about 3 weeks later got a letter saying my penalty was completely removed! Saved me from having to spend hours on the phone and the stress of wondering if I was saying the right things.

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Did you have to pay for the letter? I'm curious how this works compared to just calling them directly. Does the letter approach have a better success rate than calling?

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. I've always heard you need to talk to a real person at the IRS to get penalties removed. Did you have to provide a lot of personal information to this website? I'm always cautious about tax services claiming to handle IRS issues.

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You do pay for their service, but considering it saved me from taking time off work to sit on hold with the IRS for hours, it was worth it to me. Plus having a professionally worded letter with all the right terminology seemed more official than me trying to explain things over the phone. From what I understand, the IRS processes written requests the same as phone requests, but with a letter, you have documentation of exactly what you submitted. I didn't have to provide anything beyond what was already on my tax notice and basic information about my filing history.

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I actually ended up trying taxr.ai after initially being skeptical. I had a failure-to-file penalty for my S-Corp that was about $1,200. Their system asked me questions about my situation and produced a really detailed abatement request letter that cited specific Internal Revenue Manual sections. I was surprised how easy it was - I just uploaded my penalty notice, answered some questions about my compliance history, and downloaded a completed letter. Mailed it certified to the IRS last month, and yesterday I got confirmation that my penalty was completely removed! What impressed me was that the letter they generated explained exactly why I qualified for First-Time Penalty Abatement under IRM 20.1.1.3.3.2.1, which apparently is the specific policy that allows the IRS to remove penalties for first-time issues. I would have never known to reference that on my own.

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I had a similar penalty situation last year, but instead of writing a letter, I tried for weeks to call the IRS directly. It was absolutely maddening - disconnected calls, hours on hold only to speak with someone who couldn't help me, getting transferred and then disconnected again. After wasting about 6 hours across multiple days, I found Claimyr at https://claimyr.com where they basically call the IRS for you and then connect you once they reach a human. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c which convinced me to try it. It worked surprisingly well - they called the IRS, navigated all the prompts, waited on hold, and then called me when they had an actual IRS agent on the line. The agent processed my penalty abatement request right there on the phone. The whole thing took about 15 minutes of my time instead of hours of frustration.

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How does this even work? Seems weird that another company can call the IRS for you. Don't you need to verify your identity and all that? I'm dealing with a similar penalty and dreading making the call.

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This sounds like a scam honestly. No way the IRS would allow a third party to call on your behalf without power of attorney paperwork. Plus, how do you know the "IRS agent" they connect you with is legitimate? Too risky dealing with sensitive tax information.

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It's actually pretty straightforward - they don't speak to the IRS on your behalf at all. They just navigate the phone system and wait on hold, then when they reach an agent, they call you and connect you directly. You still speak with the IRS yourself and handle all the identity verification yourself. They're basically just saving you from the hold time and disconnected calls. Once they connect you, it's a direct conversation between you and the official IRS representative as if you had called yourself. The difference is you don't waste hours trying to get through.

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I take back what I said about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to look them up and saw they had legitimate reviews and a clear explanation of how their service works. Since I also needed to call the IRS about a penalty, I reluctantly tried it. I was honestly shocked at how well it worked. They didn't ask for any personal tax information - just my phone number. About 45 minutes after I submitted my request (during which time I just went about my day), I got a call saying they had an IRS agent on the line. They connected me, and I handled everything directly with the IRS agent myself. The agent approved my penalty abatement request on the spot. Total time I spent actively dealing with this: maybe 10 minutes. Compared to the 3+ hour hold times I've experienced in the past trying to call the IRS myself, this was absolutely worth it.

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - the counting of "months" for penalties is weird with the IRS. They consider any part of a month as a full month. So if your return was due March 15 and filed April 12, that spans parts of two calendar months (March 16-31 and April 1-12), so they count it as 2 months late even though it's less than 30 days total. This is standard IRS procedure, so challenging the "2 months" calculation probably won't get you anywhere. Your best bet is still requesting the First-Time Abatement that others have mentioned.

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That explains a lot about the 2 months thing! Seems pretty unfair but I guess that's how they do it. Thanks for clearing that up - I'll focus on the abatement request instead of trying to argue about their math.

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For what it's worth, I think your accountant dropped the ball here. If he knew he needed your authorization to file an extension, he should have proactively reached out for it rather than just letting the deadline pass. Every accountant I've worked with automatically files extensions if they think there's any chance of missing a deadline. I'd seriously consider finding a new accountant who specializes in small business/partnership returns. A good accountant should have warned you about the March 15 deadline for partnerships (it's different than individual returns) and should be helping you with the penalty abatement rather than just shrugging it off.

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Absolutely agree. My accountant always files an extension automatically and then lets me know he did it. You shouldn't have to micromanage your tax professional - that's literally what you're paying them for! Plus a good accountant would help you write the abatement letter or at least give you a template.

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I'm definitely reconsidering our relationship after this. You make excellent points - if I'm paying a professional, they should be proactively managing deadlines and extensions. I've already started researching other accountants in my area who have more experience with small business partnerships.

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I went through this exact situation with my LLC last year and successfully got the penalty waived. Here's what worked for me: I called the IRS using the number on the penalty notice (not the general 1-800 number). Yes, I was on hold for about 90 minutes, but it was worth it for the immediate resolution. When I got through, I was polite but direct: "I'm calling to request First-Time Penalty Abatement for notice [penalty notice number]. This was my first partnership return, I have a clean filing history, and I was unaware of the March 15th deadline." The representative pulled up my account, confirmed I had no prior penalties, and removed the entire $820 penalty on the spot. No paperwork, no waiting weeks for a response. The key is being specific about "First-Time Penalty Abatement" - don't just ask them to "waive the penalty." One tip: call early in the morning (8 AM EST) when they open. Hold times are typically shorter then. And definitely consider switching accountants - yours should have filed an automatic extension or at minimum warned you about partnership filing deadlines being different from individual returns. Good luck! This is very fixable.

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