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What's the best tax strategy for holding private company stock options?

I'm working at a medium-sized tech company that gives employees stock options as part of our compensation package. The company seems to be doing pretty well, and I'm trying to figure out the smartest way to handle these options from a tax perspective. Right now I'm just holding all my stock options personally under my own name. I've been wondering if there might be better ways to structure this for tax advantages. Should I consider putting them in some kind of trust? Would it make sense to gift some options to my kids (they're 11 and 14)? What about setting up an LLC or something similar to hold them? Any other creative approaches I'm not thinking about? I'm not super rich or anything, but these options could be worth something decent if the company keeps growing, and I want to make sure I'm being smart about how I'm handling them. Any advice from people who've dealt with private company stock options before?

Great question about private company stock options! The best approach really depends on your specific situation, but I can help explain some options. Holding stock options personally is actually fine for many people. The main alternatives you mentioned each have different implications. A trust could be useful for estate planning purposes, especially if you expect these options to significantly appreciate. Gifting to minor children can be done through UTMA/UGMA accounts, but remember they get control at age of majority (18-21 depending on state). An LLC might be overkill unless you have substantial options or other assets you're trying to protect. The tax treatment generally flows through to your personal return anyway. One thing to keep in mind is that the type of options matters too. Incentive Stock Options (ISOs) and Non-qualified Stock Options (NSOs) have very different tax treatment. ISOs can offer better tax advantages but have holding requirements to get favorable long-term capital gains treatment.

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This is really helpful! Can you explain more about the difference between ISOs and NSOs? Also, if I do decide to gift some to my kids, would they have to pay taxes on them when they exercise the options?

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ISOs (Incentive Stock Options) can receive preferential tax treatment - if you meet certain holding requirements (hold the stock for at least 1 year after exercise and 2 years after grant), you'll pay long-term capital gains rates instead of ordinary income tax rates. However, the spread between exercise price and fair market value is subject to Alternative Minimum Tax calculations. For gifting to kids, they would typically pay taxes when they exercise the options. The tax rate would depend on their income level (which is presumably lower than yours), but remember the "kiddie tax" can kick in for investment income above certain thresholds, potentially taxing it at your higher rate. Also, make sure your company allows transfer of options - many don't.

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Do they handle both ISO and NSO type options? My company has given me a mix and I'm confused about the different tax implications of each.

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - check if your company has any restrictions on transferring your options to trusts or other entities. I tried to move mine to a family trust and found out our company's option plan specifically prohibited it without board approval. Had to go through this whole exception process. Just a heads up that it might not be entirely your choice depending on your company's stock option plan documents.

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That's a really good point I hadn't thought about. Do you know if this restriction is common in most company option plans? I'll have to go back and read the fine print on my grant documents.

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In my experience, it's fairly common for private companies to have some transfer restrictions. Most option plans allow transfers to family trusts or estate planning vehicles with notice to the company, but often prohibit transfers to third parties without approval. The reason is that companies want to control who their shareholders are, especially while private. If you're planning to transfer to a trust, review your option agreement and stock option plan carefully. Look for sections titled "Transfer Restrictions" or "Transferability." Sometimes you just need to give written notice to the company, other times you need formal approval from the board or compensation committee.

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One strategy I used was exercising a portion of my options early and filing an 83(b) election with the IRS. This lets you pay ordinary income tax on the spread (if any) at exercise rather than when the shares vest, which can be huge if your company's value increases dramatically. You only have 30 days after exercise to file the 83(b) though, so don't miss that deadline! I missed it with my first company and regretted it - would have saved about $30k in taxes if I'd filed properly.

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Wait I thought 83(b) elections were only for restricted stock, not options? I'm confused because my accountant told me options aren't eligible for 83(b) since they're already taxed at exercise.

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