What occupation should I list on my tax return if my only income was from trading stocks and options (without trader tax status)?
So I've been trying to fill out my taxes and I'm completely stuck on the occupation field. Last year I left my job in marketing to focus on trading stocks and options full-time. I made about $43,500 from trading (mix of short-term and some long-term gains), and that's literally my only income for the entire year. I know I don't qualify for trader tax status because I didn't meet all the requirements (didn't make enough trades daily and took some breaks). The IRS still wants me to list an occupation though. Would "Investor" be correct? Or should I put "Unemployed" since technically I don't have a job? Or maybe "Self-employed"? I'm worried about audit flags if I put the wrong thing. I'm using TurboTax and it keeps asking me to fill this field before I can continue. Any advice would be super appreciated!!
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Omar Zaki
You should list "Investor" as your occupation. That's the most accurate description of what you're doing - investing in securities to generate income. The IRS recognizes this as a legitimate occupation, even though you don't qualify for trader tax status. "Unemployed" would be misleading since you are actively working to generate income, just not as an employee of a company. "Self-employed" is typically used for people running a business or providing services, which isn't quite what you're doing as an investor. This won't raise any audit flags as long as you're correctly reporting all your income and paying the appropriate taxes. Make sure you're reporting all your capital gains on Schedule D and Form 8949, and if you received any dividends, those should be reported as well.
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CosmicCrusader
•Thanks for the info! Quick follow up - if I do put "Investor" do I need to file a Schedule C? I don't want to mess this up.
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Omar Zaki
•No, you don't need to file a Schedule C as an investor. Schedule C is for reporting business income, and since you don't qualify for trader tax status, your activity is considered investing rather than a business. You'll just need to report your capital gains and losses on Schedule D and Form 8949. Any investment expenses you might have had (like subscription fees for investment research) would be miscellaneous itemized deductions, which unfortunately are suspended until 2026 under current tax law.
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Chloe Robinson
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Diego Flores
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NebulaNinja
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Luca Russo
My accountant told me to list "Self-employed - Securities Trader" on mine even though I didn't qualify for trader status. He said it's more accurate than just "Investor" because I was actively trading options not just buying and holding stocks. Been doing it this way for 3 years, no issues or audits yet.
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Freya Andersen
•Interesting! Did your accountant give any specific reason why that was better than just "Investor"? I'm worried about anything that might trigger extra scrutiny.
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Luca Russo
•He said it more accurately reflects what I'm actually doing on a day-to-day basis. His explanation was that "Investor" implies more passive activity like buy-and-hold strategies, while what many of us are doing with active trading (even without trader tax status) is more hands-on work. The most important thing is consistency between what you call yourself and how you file your taxes. If you say you're a "Securities Trader" but don't file the appropriate schedule for your trading activity, that could raise questions. But if your tax forms and occupation align with your actual activity, it shouldn't trigger extra scrutiny.
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Nia Wilson
I listed "Investor" on mine for 3 years while trading was my only income. Got audited once but NOT because of the occupation - it was because I messed up reporting some wash sales from robinhood. The IRS agent actually confirmed during the audit that "Investor" was the correct occupation for someone who trades but doesn't qualify for trader tax status. Be careful with TurboTax and trading though! It often gets options and wash sales wrong. Double check everything.
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Mateo Sanchez
•What tax software do you use now? I'm finding TurboTax is terrible with my options trades.
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Eli Butler
Based on my experience and what I've seen here, "Investor" is definitely the safest and most accurate choice for your situation. Since you're trading securities to generate capital gains (not running a business or providing services), that's exactly what an investor does - even if you're doing it actively. The key thing is that your occupation should match how you're actually filing your taxes. Since you don't qualify for trader tax status, you'll be reporting everything as capital gains on Schedule D, which aligns perfectly with listing "Investor" as your occupation. Don't overthink it - the IRS has seen plenty of people who left traditional jobs to trade full-time. As long as you're accurately reporting all your gains/losses and paying the right taxes, your occupation designation won't be an issue. I'd stick with "Investor" and move forward with confidence.
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Javier Mendoza
•This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar boat - left my corporate job last year to trade full-time but definitely don't meet the trader tax status requirements. I was leaning toward "Self-employed" but "Investor" makes way more sense given that I'm reporting everything as capital gains rather than business income. Thanks for clarifying that the occupation should align with how you're actually filing - that's the key piece I was missing!
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Malik Jackson
I went through this exact same situation two years ago when I transitioned from my corporate job to full-time trading. After consulting with a tax professional and doing extensive research, I can confirm that "Investor" is absolutely the correct occupation to list. The distinction is important: investors buy and sell securities to generate capital gains/losses (which is what you're doing), while traders who qualify for trader tax status are considered to be in the business of trading and report their income differently on Schedule C. Since you mentioned you don't qualify for trader tax status, you'll be reporting your gains and losses on Schedule D and Form 8949 - which is exactly what investors do. Your occupation designation should align with how you're filing your taxes. One additional tip: keep good records of your trading activity and any investment-related expenses. While most investment expenses aren't currently deductible, having organized records shows you're treating this seriously as your occupation, not just as a hobby. Don't worry about audit flags - the IRS sees plenty of people who trade as their primary income source. As long as you're accurately reporting everything and paying the appropriate taxes, listing "Investor" won't raise any red flags.
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KaiEsmeralda
•This is exactly the kind of detailed explanation I was looking for! I really appreciate you sharing your experience from going through the same transition. The point about keeping organized records even though most investment expenses aren't deductible is smart - it definitely shows you're treating trading as a legitimate occupation rather than just a hobby. One quick question - when you say "investment-related expenses," are you referring to things like trading platform fees, data subscriptions, and educational materials? Or are there other categories I should be tracking?
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