What level of detail is needed when explaining 941-X corrections for successful ERC claims?
I've completed 941-X forms to claim the Employee Retention Credit for my business for the last three quarters of 2020 and first three quarters of 2021. We qualify based on our revenue decline and have calculated all the numbers, but I'm stuck on the final question that asks for "a detailed explanation of how you determined your corrections." I'm unsure how much detail the IRS expects here. Do I need to show all the calculations per employee, subtract PPP wages, and provide the final figures? Or is a more general explanation sufficient? Here's what I've drafted so far: >We are filing this Form 941-X in order to claim the Employee Retention Credit (ERC). All of the corrections described below were discovered and calculated on 02/15/2023. Corrections are needed because we were not aware of ERC when our original Form 941 was filed. We are eligible for ERC due to a 31.7% decline in gross receipts in Q2 2020 compared to Q2 2019. > >Line 18a shows our nonrefundable portion of ERC, calculated via Line 1n of Worksheet 2 of Instructions for Form 941-X (Rev. 7-2021). This number is calculated by subtracting our employer share of social security tax from our total social security wages, for a total of $11,384.73. > >Line 26a shows our refundable portion of ERC, calculated via Line 2k of Worksheet 2 of Instructions for Form 941-X (Rev. 7-2021). This number is calculated by adding qualified Q2 wages to qualified 03/13/2020 to 03/31/2020 wages, multiplying that sum by 0.5 to determine our total ERC, and then subtracting our nonrefundable portion of ERC, for a total of $42,629.54. > >Line 30 shows our qualified wages for ERC. This was calculated by subtracting Q2 wages paid via Payroll Protection Program (PPP) funds from our total Q2 wages. $108,275.65 (Q2 wages) minus $32,482.69 (Q2 wages paid via PPP funds) equals $75,792.96. > >Line 33a shows our qualified wages paid 3/13/20 - 3/13/21 for ERC. These wages total $49,675.93. Is this explanation detailed enough, or should I include more specifics about how I determined eligible wages?
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Mateo Rodriguez
As someone who's handled dozens of successful ERC claims, I can tell you that your explanation is on the right track but could use some enhancement. The IRS is primarily looking for your methodology rather than every calculation detail. I recommend adding a brief explanation of how you determined which employees' wages were eligible (full-time vs. part-time status, which employees continued working vs. not working, etc.) and clarify how you allocated the PPP funds across payroll periods. Also, mention if you're a small or large employer since that affects which wages qualify. You don't need to list every employee's calculation, but your explanation should be thorough enough that an IRS agent could follow your logic and understand how you arrived at your figures. The amounts you've calculated seem reasonable based on the information provided.
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Nia Thompson
•That's super helpful! So I should add information about our employee categorization and PPP allocation methods. We're definitely a small employer (under 100 FTEs in 2019), so I'll mention that all paid wages qualify regardless of whether employees were working or not. For the PPP allocation, we used the covered periods on our forgiveness applications to determine which wages were paid with PPP funds. Does mentioning that approach sound sufficient?
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Mateo Rodriguez
•Yes, definitely mention your status as a small employer with under 100 FTEs in 2019, as that's a crucial detail for ERC qualification and makes it clear why all paid wages qualify. For the PPP allocation, explaining that you used the covered periods from your forgiveness applications is exactly what the IRS wants to see. I'd also briefly note your method if you had to allocate partially (e.g., "PPP funds were applied chronologically to payroll during the covered period until exhausted" or "PPP funds were allocated proportionally across all employees during the covered period"). This shows the IRS you had a consistent, reasonable methodology.
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Aisha Abdullah
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Ethan Wilson
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NeonNova
•Did they flag any issues with your actual calculations? I'm worried I might have made mistakes in my wage computations but don't want to pay a consultant thousands of dollars to review everything.
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Aisha Abdullah
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NeonNova
I was super skeptical about these ERC processing tools too, but I finally tried taxr.ai after struggling with my 941-X forms for weeks. My small manufacturing business qualified for several quarters, but I was totally lost on how to explain my calculations properly. The feedback I got was incredibly detailed - it pointed out that my explanation was missing specific language about how I determined eligibility under the gross receipts test, and suggested adding exact percentage declines for each quarter. It also recommended I explain my method for allocating health benefits to qualified wages (which I had completely overlooked). Most importantly, it caught a major mistake in how I was handling partially-qualified wages for employees who received both PPP and non-PPP wages in the same period. Would have been a huge red flag for the IRS. My refund was approved about 7 weeks after submission - over $280,000 that my business desperately needed!
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Yuki Tanaka
Has anyone here tried calling the IRS directly with ERC questions? I've been attempting to reach them for weeks to clarify some points on my 941-X but keep getting disconnected or facing hours-long wait times. I'm afraid to submit without confirmation on a few details but getting nowhere. I heard about this service called Claimyr that supposedly gets you through to an IRS agent quickly. Has anyone at https://claimyr.com actually worked? There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c but I'm hesitant to try something new when dealing with something as important as ERC claims.
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Carmen Diaz
•How would that even work? The IRS phone lines are notoriously backed up. I've tried calling at different times of day, different days of the week, and still can't get through. Hard to believe any service could magically get you to the front of the line.
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Andre Laurent
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Yuki Tanaka
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Andre Laurent
I was totally wrong about Claimyr and need to publicly eat my words. After my skeptical comment, I was so desperate to talk to the IRS about my ERC claim that I tried it anyway. I've literally spent MONTHS trying to get through to someone at the IRS about my 941-X questions - calling at 7am, trying different departments, the whole nine yards. The Claimyr service had me talking to an actual IRS agent within 3 hours of submitting my request. They handled all the redials and menu navigation, then called me when they had an agent on the line. The agent confirmed that my explanation approach was sufficient but suggested I add documentation about how I determined the gross receipts decline (like including a simple quarter-by-quarter revenue comparison). That small adjustment probably saved me from getting flagged for review. My claim for $118K was approved about 9 weeks after submission.
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Emily Jackson
Make sure you keep ALL your supporting documentation accessible for at least 4-5 years. My company claimed ERC in early 2022, got our refund about 3 months later, and then just received an audit notice last month asking for additional documentation proving our eligibility. We had everything organized (quarterly P&Ls showing revenue decline, employee counts by quarter, detailed wage calculations showing PPP vs non-PPP payroll, etc.), but I'm seeing forum posts from people who didn't keep good records and are really struggling with audits. The IRS is definitely increasing scrutiny on these claims.
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Nia Thompson
•That's concerning. What specific documentation did they request in the audit? Was it focused more on proving eligibility (the revenue decline) or on the wage calculations?
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Emily Jackson
•They wanted both types of documentation. For the eligibility part, they requested quarterly profit and loss statements for both 2019 and 2020 to verify our claimed revenue decline. They also asked for bank statements showing deposits that would substantiate our gross receipts. For the wage calculations, it was much more detailed. They requested payroll registers for all quarters claimed, documentation showing which employees' wages were claimed, evidence of how PPP funds were allocated to specific payroll periods, and health insurance allocation methodology. They even asked for copies of our PPP loan applications and forgiveness documentation to cross-reference. The most time-consuming part was providing a spreadsheet reconciling the qualified wages on our 941-X with our actual payroll records. I recommend creating and saving this type of reconciliation when you do your initial filing - recreating it a year later was a nightmare.
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Liam Mendez
Anyone know the current processing timeframe for 941-X refunds? I submitted mine for Q2 and Q3 2020 about 12 weeks ago and haven't heard anything.
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Sophia Nguyen
•I submitted in January 2023 and just got my refund last month, so about 7 months. But I've heard some people waiting over a year now. The IRS is overwhelmed with these claims and there's been increased scrutiny because of all the fraudulent claims submitted by sketchy ERC mills.
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