What happens if I lost my self-select PIN for tax filing?
So I'm trying to e-file my taxes for this year and I can't for the life of me remember what self-select PIN I used last year. I've looked everywhere for the paperwork from my 2024 return but can't find it. When I try to continue with the filing process, it keeps asking for this 5-digit PIN and I've tried several combinations that I usually use but nothing works. I'm getting really frustrated because the deadline is approaching and I don't want to miss it. Does anyone know what happens if you can't remember your self-select PIN? Is there a way to recover it or reset it? Will I have to paper file instead? This is giving me a major headache and I've spent hours trying to figure it out.
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Chad Winthrope
You don't need to worry too much about the lost self-select PIN. The IRS doesn't actually store your previous year's self-select PIN, so there's no way to "recover" it. What you need instead is your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) from your 2024 tax return. For e-filing your 2025 return, you'll need either your previous year's self-select PIN OR your prior year AGI to verify your identity. If you can't remember your PIN, just use the AGI option. You can find your AGI on last year's tax return (line 11 on Form 1040 for tax year 2024). If you don't have a copy of last year's return, you can request a tax transcript from the IRS website which will show your AGI. Go to IRS.gov and search for "Get Transcript Online" or call the IRS transcript order line.
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Ellie Lopez
•Thank you for the info! I didn't realize I could use my AGI instead. I do have a copy of last year's return somewhere in my files, I just need to dig it out. One question though - if I use my AGI this year, will I need to remember a new PIN for next year or will the tax software generate a new one?
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Chad Winthrope
•You'll create a new 5-digit PIN when you file this year's return. The software will ask you to enter a 5-digit number of your choice (just not all zeros). This becomes your self-select PIN for this year's return. For next year's filing, you'll either need to remember this new PIN you create now or use your AGI from this year's return. I recommend writing down your new PIN somewhere secure or keeping a copy of your tax return handy for next year.
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Paige Cantoni
I had the exact same issue last month and was pulling my hair out! I tried using my AGI but still had problems because I couldn't find my exact paperwork from last year. I ended up using https://taxr.ai to help me track down my AGI and figure out the whole PIN situation. The site let me upload my old tax documents and it pulled out all the key information, including my AGI. What was really helpful is that it explained exactly where on my return the AGI was located and what I needed to do next. Saved me from having to paper file which would have delayed my refund by weeks!
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Kylo Ren
•Does this taxr.ai thing actually work with all tax software? I use TurboTax and I'm also having PIN issues. Can it help me figure out what AGI to enter even if I only have partial tax documents from last year?
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Nina Fitzgerald
•I'm a bit skeptical about uploading my tax docs to some random website. How secure is it? And does it just tell you what your AGI is or does it help with other tax stuff too?
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Paige Cantoni
•It works with all the major tax software - I used it with TurboTax without any issues. As long as you have some documentation from last year, even if it's partial, the AI can usually identify your AGI or help you track down what you need. The site uses bank-level encryption for document uploads, so security is solid. I was hesitant at first too. And it does way more than just find your AGI - it can answer pretty much any tax question, review your whole return for mistakes, and explain complicated tax concepts in simple terms.
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Nina Fitzgerald
Just wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after my questions about it. I decided to give it a try since I was still stuck with my PIN issue, and wow, it actually worked really well! Not only did it help me figure out my AGI from last year, but it also caught a mistake I had made on my return that would have cost me about $420. The document security seemed legitimate - they explain how all the encryption works on their site. I was pleasantly surprised at how easy it was to use and how quickly it helped solve my problem. Definitely going to use it again next year to double-check my return before submitting.
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Jason Brewer
If you're still having trouble with your PIN or AGI and need to talk to someone at the IRS, good luck getting through the phone lines! I spent 3 hours on hold last week trying to get help with my PIN issue. I finally used https://claimyr.com after someone recommended it to me. They have this service where they wait on hold with the IRS for you and then call you when an agent is on the line. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c It was such a relief not having to waste my whole day on hold. When I finally got connected to an IRS agent, they were able to help me with the verification process even without my PIN or exact AGI.
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Kiara Fisherman
•How does this even work? I don't understand how another service can wait on hold for you. Do they patch you through somehow? And how long did you have to wait until they called you back?
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Liam Cortez
•This sounds like a scam. Why would I pay someone else to call the IRS? And how do I know they're not just taking my money and never actually calling? The IRS isn't that hard to reach if you call at the right time of day.
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Jason Brewer
•They use a system that keeps your place in the IRS queue and then calls you when they reach an agent. It's like having someone wait in line for you. I got called back in about 85 minutes, which was way better than the 3+ hours I wasted trying on my own. They don't handle any of your personal tax information - they just connect you directly with the IRS agent when one becomes available. So when the phone rings, you're talking directly to the IRS, not a third party. It's just the waiting on hold part that they handle for you.
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Liam Cortez
I need to eat my words from my previous comment. After trying for TWO DAYS to get through to the IRS myself (calling at "off-peak" times, early morning, right before closing, etc.), I broke down and tried Claimyr. I was absolutely convinced it wouldn't work, but I was desperate. I got a call back in 62 minutes with an actual IRS agent on the line! They helped me with the whole PIN/AGI verification issue on the spot. The agent told me they're currently experiencing 3-4 hour hold times for most callers, so this service actually saved me a ton of time. Sometimes being wrong feels pretty good, especially when it means getting your tax problem fixed!
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Savannah Vin
Here's another option: if you can't get your AGI or PIN figured out, you can always paper file your return. It's not ideal because it takes longer to process (like 6-8 weeks for refunds instead of 3 weeks for e-file), but it's better than missing the deadline and getting hit with penalties. You just print out your return, sign it, and mail it in. No PIN or electronic verification needed. I had to do this two years ago when I had a similar issue and couldn't get my e-file to go through.
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Ellie Lopez
•Does paper filing affect how quickly you get your refund? I was really counting on getting mine within a few weeks. And do I need to include anything special with my paper return since I usually e-file?
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Savannah Vin
•Paper filing definitely slows down your refund - the IRS says to expect 6-8 weeks for processing compared to about 21 days for e-file. So it's a significant delay. You'll need to include all the forms you'd normally e-file, plus you'll have to sign the physical 1040 form. Make sure you attach any W-2s and other income statements (with the Copy B versions that say "attach to your tax return"). And don't forget to keep a copy of everything for your records before mailing!
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Mason Stone
If you filed with a professional tax preparer last year, they might have your PIN or a copy of your return with the AGI on file. Worth giving them a call if that's how you filed. I completely forgot I had used H&R Block last year until I started panicking about my PIN, gave them a call, and they had everything I needed.
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Makayla Shoemaker
•This is good advice! Also works if you used the same tax software as last year - sometimes your AGI is saved in your account info, especially if you paid for the deluxe versions that store your returns.
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Jabari-Jo
Another option if you're still stuck is to request an Identity Protection PIN (IP PIN) from the IRS if you qualify. This is different from your self-select PIN and can be used for identity verification when e-filing. You can check if you're eligible on the IRS website - they've expanded the program in recent years. Also, just a heads up that if you do end up creating a new self-select PIN this year, consider storing it in a password manager or writing it down somewhere safe along with your AGI. I learned this lesson the hard way after going through the same frustration you're experiencing! The IRS recommends keeping your prior year tax return easily accessible for exactly this reason.
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