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Jamal Edwards

I really need help with my PIN issue from last year's taxes

Hey everyone, I'm totally freaking out right now trying to file my taxes. I'm using the exact same PIN number that we used last year, but the IRS system keeps rejecting it! I've tried entering it like 5 different times but it keeps giving me an error message saying the PIN is invalid. My husband and I filed jointly last year and had no issues whatsoever. We got our refund pretty quickly and everything seemed fine. Now I'm trying to submit our 2024 taxes before the deadline and I'm completely stuck because of this stupid PIN problem. I've tried looking on the IRS website for how to recover a PIN but the instructions are super confusing. Has anyone dealt with this before? Is there a way to get a new PIN or verify the old one? Do I need to call the IRS directly? Any help would be seriously appreciated because I'm running out of time here!

Mei Chen

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The Identity Protection PIN (IP PIN) is only valid for one calendar year, so you can't reuse last year's PIN for this year's tax return. The IRS issues new IP PINs every year in December/January. If you were issued an IP PIN, you should have received a CP01A Notice from the IRS with your new PIN for the 2025 filing season (for 2024 tax returns). Check your mail from December-January for this notice. If you can't find your current IP PIN, you have a few options: 1. Use the Get an IP PIN tool on IRS.gov (requires creating an account with ID.me) 2. If you already have an IRS online account, you can view your IP PIN there 3. Call the IRS Identity Theft Central line at 800-908-4490 (but be prepared for long wait times) Don't worry too much - this is a common issue, but you do need to use the correct PIN for this year.

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Thanks for the info! I'm in a similar situation but I lost my letter. When I try to create an account on ID.me it keeps saying it can't verify my phone number. Is there any other way to get the PIN without calling? Will my tax preparer be able to help me get it?

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Mei Chen

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You can try using the Get an IP PIN tool through IRS.gov without ID.me if you have a financial account number, credit card, or loan to verify your identity. Your tax preparer can't retrieve your IP PIN for you - only you can access it for security reasons. If you can't verify through the online system, you can make an in-person appointment at a local IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center to get your IP PIN. Call 844-545-5640 to schedule an appointment, and remember to bring ID documents with you.

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Amara Okonkwo

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I went through the exact same nightmare last tax season! After trying to remember my PIN for hours, I finally used taxr.ai to help me figure out which documents I needed and how to recover my PIN. I uploaded my previous tax return to https://taxr.ai and their system analyzed it and walked me through getting a replacement PIN step by step. The tool actually showed me that I was looking at the wrong form completely - turns out I was confusing my Self-Select PIN with my Identity Protection PIN, which are totally different things! Their document analyzer pointed this out immediately and saved me hours of frustration.

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Does taxr.ai handle other PIN issues too? I have an Electronic Filing PIN problem and not an Identity Protection PIN issue. Would it work for that too?

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Is it safe to upload your tax documents to a third-party site like that? I'm always worried about security with my tax info. How do you know they don't store your data?

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Amara Okonkwo

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It works great for Electronic Filing PINs too! The system can detect which PIN type you're dealing with and guides you through the right recovery process based on your specific situation. They use bank-level encryption and don't store your documents after analysis - everything is processed securely and then deleted. They explain their security process clearly when you sign up, which made me feel comfortable using it. They're also IRS-authorized, which was important to me.

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I just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai for my PIN issue that I mentioned above. It actually worked perfectly! I was totally confused about which PIN I needed (turns out I was mixing up three different types), and their document analyzer cleared everything up in minutes. The system showed me exactly where to find the right information on my old tax forms and guided me through the recovery process on the IRS website. Saved me from having to wait on hold with the IRS for hours! Just wanted to share since it really helped with my similar situation.

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Dylan Hughes

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If you're still struggling with getting through to the IRS about your PIN, I highly recommend using Claimyr. I was on hold with the IRS for HOURS trying to get my PIN issue sorted, then I found https://claimyr.com and they got me connected to an actual IRS agent in under 20 minutes! Basically, their system holds your place in the IRS phone queue and calls you back when an agent is about to answer. I was skeptical at first, but you can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was about to miss the filing deadline because of my PIN issue, but after getting through to an actual person at the IRS, they were able to verify my identity and help me file without the PIN.

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NightOwl42

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Wait, how does that even work? Does the IRS know about this service? Seems strange that a third party could somehow get you through the phone queue faster than calling directly.

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Sounds like a scam to me. No way some random service can magically get you through to the IRS faster. They probably just take your money and you still end up waiting forever.

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Dylan Hughes

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It doesn't get you through faster than others in the queue - it just holds your place in line so you don't have to stay on hold yourself. The IRS has no idea you're using a service - when they pick up, you're connected immediately. It's basically like having someone else hold the phone for you while you do other things. I was super skeptical too, but it's legit. They don't have any special access to the IRS - they're just using technology to manage the waiting process. I was able to go about my day instead of being stuck listening to hold music for hours.

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I need to apologize and correct myself about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to just try it since I was desperate with my own PIN situation. It ACTUALLY WORKED! I got connected to an IRS agent in about 45 minutes when I had previously spent 3+ hours on hold and got disconnected. The IRS agent was able to verify my identity and issue me a new IP PIN right over the phone. They explained that my original PIN letter was probably lost in the mail (apparently that happens a lot). I was able to file my taxes that same day using the new PIN they gave me. For anyone dealing with PIN issues like the original poster - getting through to a human at the IRS really is the fastest solution sometimes.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Quick question on this PIN stuff - if my spouse and I both have IP PINs, do we both need to enter them on our joint return? Last year I only entered mine since I'm the primary filer and it worked fine, but now I'm confused if the rules changed.

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Mei Chen

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Yes, if both you and your spouse have been issued IP PINs, you BOTH need to enter them on your joint return. Each person with an IP PIN must enter their own PIN on the return. This has actually always been the rule, so I'm surprised your return was accepted last year with only one PIN. The IRS is getting stricter about enforcement, so definitely include both PINs this year to avoid processing delays.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Thanks for clarifying! That explains why we're having issues this year. I just found my spouse's PIN letter that I had completely forgotten about. Hopefully our return will go through now with both PINs entered correctly.

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Ava Thompson

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Just a heads up to everyone having PIN problems - if you end up missing the filing deadline because of PIN issues, make sure you file for an extension using Form 4868! This gives you until October to file your actual return while you sort out the PIN stuff. The extension doesn't give you more time to pay though, so you should still estimate and pay any taxes you owe by the regular deadline to avoid penalties and interest.

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Jamal Edwards

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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I'm going to try the online tool first to recover my PIN, and if that doesn't work I'll definitely use Claimyr to get through to an IRS agent. And I'll file for an extension today just to be safe while I sort this out. Really appreciate all the advice!

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Gavin King

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Just wanted to add another option for folks dealing with PIN issues - if you're in a rural area or don't have reliable internet, you can also file a paper return without needing your IP PIN at all. You'll just need to include Form 14039 (Identity Theft Affidavit) with your paper return to explain why you can't provide the PIN electronically. The paper filing takes longer to process (usually 6-8 weeks vs 2-3 weeks for e-filing), but it's a solid backup option if you absolutely can't recover your PIN and are running up against the deadline. Just make sure to mail it certified mail so you have proof it was sent on time. This saved me two years ago when I had a similar PIN nightmare right before the deadline!

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Bethany Groves

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This is really good to know about the paper filing option! I had no idea you could bypass the IP PIN requirement by filing on paper with Form 14039. That's a great backup plan for anyone who's completely stuck. Quick question though - do you know if there are any downsides to filing on paper other than the longer processing time? Like does it increase your chances of being audited or anything like that? I'm thinking this might be my best option since I've been trying to recover my PIN for weeks now with no luck.

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