What does line 7 and 8 of Schedule SE mean for side gig income?

I can definitely help explain Schedule SE lines 7 and 8! These lines are actually really important for calculating self-employment tax. Line 7 is showing the maximum amount of combined wages and self-employment earnings subject to Social Security tax for 2024 (which was $147,000). It's basically a cap on how much of your income gets hit with the Social Security portion of self-employment tax. Line 8 is where you enter your total wages subject to Social Security tax from W-2 forms (if you have a regular job besides your side gig). This helps prevent double taxation if your total earnings exceed that $147,000 cap. The form uses these numbers to determine how much of your side gig income should be subject to Social Security tax. If you're only doing the side gig, line 8 would be zero, and your self-employment income up to $147,000 would be subject to Social Security tax.

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For those still confused about Schedule SE lines 7 and 8: Line 7 ($147k) = Maximum amount subject to Social Security tax Line 8 = Your W-2 wages that already had Soc Sec tax withheld The form uses these to make sure you don't pay Soc Sec tax on more than $147k total. Since most side-giggers have day jobs, line 8 helps prevent double taxation. This is one reason why high-income earners with small side gigs sometimes only pay Medicare tax (2.9%) on their self-employment income and not the full 15.3% self-employment tax.

Has anyone used TurboTax to file with a Schedule SE? I'm in the same boat with the line 7/8 confusion and wondering if it handles all this automatically or if I need to understand it to input things correctly.

I had the exact same confusion when I started my freelance writing business! The $147k on line 7 threw me off completely - I thought it was somehow related to my actual income too. What really helped me understand it was thinking of it this way: the IRS sets a yearly limit on how much income gets hit with Social Security tax. For 2024, that limit was $147,000. So line 7 is just showing you what that limit is for the tax year. Line 8 is where you put your regular job wages that already had Social Security tax taken out. This prevents you from paying Social Security tax twice if your combined W-2 and self-employment income goes over that $147k limit. Since you mentioned you have a weekend photography gig, you probably also have a regular job. Make sure to put those W-2 wages on line 8 - it could save you money on your self-employment tax calculation!