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Gabriel Freeman

Understanding Schedule SE (1040) - it's so confusing when calculating self-employment tax

So I started freelancing this year as a graphic designer, and now I'm trying to figure out this whole self-employment tax thing for the first time. I'm staring at Schedule SE (1040) and honestly feeling completely lost. On line 9 of Schedule SE, it says to multiply line 6 by 92.35% (.9235) and I'm not even sure what this percentage represents or why we're using it. Is this some kind of deduction? Am I missing something obvious? I've been using tax software in the past for my simple W-2 job, but now that I have this freelance income (about $24,000 this year), I'm trying to understand what I'm actually paying and why. The instructions for Schedule SE might as well be written in another language to me. Can someone please explain line 9 in simple terms? Thanks in advance!

The 92.35% on line 9 of Schedule SE is actually pretty important! It represents the taxable portion of your self-employment income. The government essentially gives you a break by only taxing 92.35% of your net earnings instead of the full 100%. Here's why: When you're an employee, your employer pays half of your Social Security and Medicare taxes (7.65%), and you pay the other half through withholding. But as a self-employed person, you're both the employer and employee, so you're responsible for the full amount. The 92.35% calculation is basically giving you a deduction for what would have been the "employer portion" of these taxes. So in your case, if your net self-employment earnings are $24,000, you'd multiply that by 0.9235 to get about $22,164, and that's the amount you'll calculate your self-employment tax on.

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Thanks for explaining! So the 7.65% that isn't being calculated is basically acknowledging that I'm my own employer, and giving me a break for the "employer portion"? Does that mean I'm effectively paying the same percentage as someone who's employed by a company?

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Yes, that's exactly right! It's designed to create somewhat equal tax treatment between self-employed people and traditional employees. When you work for a company, the total Social Security and Medicare tax rate is 15.3%, with half (7.65%) paid by your employer and half withheld from your paycheck. As a self-employed person, you're responsible for the whole 15.3%, but the tax is calculated on 92.35% of your income, which effectively gives you a deduction for what would have been the employer's portion. You're still paying the full self-employment tax rate, but on a slightly reduced amount of income to offset the fact that you're covering both portions.

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How does it handle mixed income? I have both W-2 and freelance income, and figuring out how they interact on Schedule SE is giving me a headache. Does it explain the calculations or just do them for you?

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Sounds interesting but I'm always skeptical of these tax tools. Does it actually explain WHY we multiply by 92.35% or just tell you to do it? I've been burned by tools that just give you numbers without helping you understand what's happening.

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One tip that helped me with Schedule SE: Do your Schedule C first, since the net profit from that (line 31) is what goes on Schedule SE. Make sure you're taking all legitimate business deductions on Schedule C before calculating your self-employment tax! This includes home office (if you qualify), business portion of phone/internet, supplies, software, professional development, etc. Each $100 in legitimate deductions you claim on Schedule C saves you about $15 in self-employment tax on Schedule SE.

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Thanks for this advice! I definitely have a dedicated home office space and business expenses. Should I be keeping specific records of these things? I'm not sure what documentation I need if the IRS ever questions my deductions.

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Yes, absolutely keep detailed records! For home office, measure the square footage of your dedicated workspace compared to your entire home to calculate the percentage. Keep this calculation along with photos of your space. For other business expenses, save all receipts (digital is fine) and note what each purchase was for. I use a spreadsheet that lists date, amount, vendor, and business purpose. For mixed-use items like phone and internet, document your business use percentage (time logs can help establish this). Bank and credit card statements aren't enough - you need to show the business purpose of each expense.

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Does the 92.35% ever change? Like does Congress adjust this percentage sometimes or has it been the same forever? Just curious if I need to check this number every year.

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It's been 92.35% for as long as I can remember. This percentage comes from 100% minus 7.65% (which is the employer portion of FICA taxes). Since these tax rates have been stable for many years, the 92.35% figure hasn't changed. Unless there's a major tax reform that changes how self-employment taxes work, you can probably count on this number staying the same. But always double-check the current year's instructions just to be safe!

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Great explanation from everyone here! As someone who's been self-employed for about 5 years now, I can confirm that understanding Schedule SE gets much easier once you grasp that 92.35% concept. One thing I'd add for Gabriel - don't forget about the additional Medicare tax if your self-employment income gets higher in future years. Once your combined wages and self-employment income exceed $200,000 (or $250,000 if married filing jointly), there's an additional 0.9% Medicare tax that applies. It doesn't affect the 92.35% calculation, but it's something to be aware of as your freelance business grows. Also, remember that you can deduct half of your self-employment tax as an adjustment to income on your Form 1040. This is separate from the 92.35% calculation but provides additional tax relief. The IRS basically recognizes that as a self-employed person, you're paying both the employee and employer portions of these taxes, so they give you this deduction to help level the playing field. Keep good records of your business expenses like others mentioned - every legitimate deduction reduces both your income tax AND your self-employment tax burden!

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Liam Duke

This is really helpful context, especially about the additional Medicare tax threshold! I had no idea about that. Quick question - when you mention deducting "half of your self-employment tax" on Form 1040, is that calculated automatically by tax software or do I need to figure that out manually? I'm using TurboTax this year but want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Also, do you have any recommendations for tracking business expenses throughout the year? I've been pretty disorganized with receipts so far.

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