W-8 BEN for Mexican freelancers: Do they pay taxes with the U.S. tax treaty?
I'm producing a small indie documentary in Mexico and have hired some local crew members. We set up an LLC for this project, and I think I need to have them complete W-8 BEN forms, but they're all concerned about whether they'll be taxed in the US. When I mentioned the W-8 BEN forms, everyone started asking if this means they'll end up paying taxes to the US government. I honestly don't know what to tell them. I've tried looking up whether the US has a tax treaty with Mexico that would exempt them from US taxation, but I'm getting really mixed information online. Does anyone know how this works? Will my Mexican crew members have to pay US taxes if they fill out W-8 BEN forms? Is there some kind of protection under a US-Mexico tax treaty? I need to give them clear answers before we proceed with paperwork for the final payments coming up next month.
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Ally Tailer
You're on the right track with the W-8BEN forms. These are specifically designed for foreign individuals to claim treaty benefits and establish that they're not US persons for tax purposes. Mexico and the US do have a tax treaty, but how it applies depends on exactly what type of work your freelancers are doing. Generally, Mexican residents providing services entirely in Mexico wouldn't be subject to US withholding tax. The W-8BEN helps document their non-US status and allows them to claim treaty benefits if applicable. The form itself doesn't create a tax obligation - it's actually meant to help avoid unnecessary withholding. Make sure they complete the form correctly, especially Part II where they claim treaty benefits. Keep these forms for your records, as you'll need them if the IRS questions why you didn't withhold taxes.
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Aliyah Debovski
•Thanks for this info. One thing I'm confused about - do I need to file these W-8BEN forms with the IRS or just keep them in my records? Also, do I need to report these payments anywhere else on my business taxes?
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Ally Tailer
•You don't need to file the W-8BEN forms with the IRS - just keep them in your records for at least three years in case of an audit. For your business taxes, you'll need to report these payments on Form 1042-S if they're subject to US withholding (though as I mentioned, services performed entirely in Mexico typically aren't). You would also file a Form 1042 summarizing any withholding, but if no withholding is required, you generally don't need to file these forms. Just document everything well for your LLC's records and expense tracking.
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Miranda Singer
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Cass Green
•Does it work specifically for film industry contractors? I've got people in different roles like cinematography, sound, and editing, so wondering if it addresses those specific situations.
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Finley Garrett
•I'm a bit skeptical about these online services. How do they actually verify the tax treaty details for different countries? I had an accountant give me bad advice about Mexican tax treaties before.
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Miranda Singer
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Finley Garrett
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Madison Tipne
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Holly Lascelles
•How does this actually work? I thought it was impossible to get through to the IRS these days. Do they just keep calling for you or something?
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Malia Ponder
•Sounds like BS to me. I've tried everything to get through to the IRS about international contractor questions and it's always a minimum 2-hour wait if you get through at all. No way they're magically connecting people in 20 minutes during tax season.
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Madison Tipne
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Malia Ponder
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Kyle Wallace
Something else to consider - make sure you're classifying your workers correctly as independent contractors vs employees. Mexico has its own labor laws about this that are pretty strict. If they're working under your direction/control, Mexican authorities might consider them employees regardless of what paperwork you have them sign. If they're true independent contractors, the W-8BEN approach others mentioned is correct. Just document everything carefully!
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Callum Savage
•This is a good point I hadn't considered. Our arrangement is definitely contractor-based (they set their own hours, use their own equipment, etc.), but I should probably check Mexican labor laws to make sure we're compliant on that front too. Do you know if there's any specific documentation I should have beyond the W-8BEN to protect my LLC?
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Kyle Wallace
•You should definitely have written contracts with each contractor that clearly spells out the independent nature of the relationship. Include language about them setting their own hours, using their own equipment, and their ability to work for other clients. For Mexican compliance specifically, it helps if they're registered with the Mexican tax authority (SAT) as independent service providers and can provide facturas (official invoices). Having them state their RFC (tax ID) on invoices is also good documentation. This protects you from both US and Mexican authorities questioning the relationship.
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Ryder Ross
Has anyone else run into issues with their bank when sending payments to Mexican freelancers? I filled out all the correct tax forms, but my bank still put a 30% hold on the transfers citing "international tax withholding requirements." Even with the proper W-8BEN forms!
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Gianni Serpent
•Try using Wise (formerly TransferWise) instead of your regular bank. I've sent payments to crew in Mexico, Brazil, and India without any withholding issues. You just need to have copies of the W-8BEN forms in your records, but Wise doesn't try to play tax enforcer like some traditional banks do.
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Marcus Patterson
I went through this exact situation last year with a documentary project in Guadalajara. The key thing to understand is that the W-8BEN form actually protects your Mexican crew members from US taxation, not the other way around. Under the US-Mexico tax treaty, Mexican residents performing services entirely within Mexico are generally exempt from US withholding tax. The W-8BEN form is how they formally claim this treaty benefit and establish their non-US tax status. Here's what I learned: collect the W-8BEN forms before making payments, keep them for at least 3 years, and make sure your contractors complete Part II correctly to claim treaty benefits. You won't need to withhold any US taxes from their payments, and they won't owe anything to the IRS. One practical tip - have them get their Mexican tax ID (RFC) and register with SAT if they haven't already. This makes the whole process cleaner and gives you better documentation for both countries' tax authorities.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•This is really helpful - thanks for sharing your real-world experience! Quick question: when you say "make sure your contractors complete Part II correctly to claim treaty benefits," what specific information should they include there? I want to make sure I can guide my crew properly when they're filling out these forms. Also, did you run into any issues with different types of crew roles (like sound vs camera vs editing)? I'm wondering if the treaty exemption applies the same way across all these different service categories.
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Kolton Murphy
•For Part II of the W-8BEN form, your contractors should reference Article 14 of the US-Mexico tax treaty for independent personal services. They'll need to check the box claiming treaty benefits and write something like "Article 14 - Independent personal services performed entirely in Mexico" in the explanation field. Regarding different crew roles, the treaty exemption applies equally to all types of independent services - whether it's cinematography, sound recording, editing, or any other film production work. The key factor isn't the type of service, but rather that the work is being performed entirely within Mexico by Mexican residents who don't have a permanent establishment in the US. Just make sure each contractor can legitimately claim Mexican tax residency and that all their work for your project is happening in Mexico. If someone travels to the US for any part of the work, that could complicate their treaty claim.
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Yara Sabbagh
I've been handling international contractor payments for several years now, and one thing I'd add to the excellent advice here is to document the timeline of your project carefully. The IRS sometimes looks at the duration and nature of services when evaluating treaty claims. For film projects, make sure you can show that each contractor's work was completed entirely within the treaty period and location. Keep records of when filming occurred, post-production timelines, and where each person performed their services. This becomes especially important if your project spans multiple months or if you have contractors doing work that could theoretically be done remotely. Also, consider having your Mexican contractors provide a certificate of tax residency from SAT (Mexican tax authorities) along with their W-8BEN forms. While not strictly required, it adds another layer of documentation that strengthens their treaty claim if questions arise later.
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Dylan Mitchell
•This is really solid advice about documentation. I hadn't thought about the timeline aspect, but it makes sense that the IRS would want to see clear evidence that all work happened within Mexico during the treaty-covered period. Quick question about the certificate of tax residency from SAT - is this something my contractors can get relatively easily, or is it a lengthy process? I'm trying to plan our paperwork timeline and want to make sure we're not creating unnecessary delays for final payments. Also, do you know if there's an English version available, or do I need to get it translated for my LLC's records?
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Grace Durand
•The certificate of tax residency from SAT is actually pretty straightforward to get - most Mexican contractors can obtain it online through the SAT portal within a few days if they're already registered. It's called "Constancia de Situación Fiscal" and shows their current tax status and residency. You don't necessarily need an English translation for your LLC records since the IRS accepts foreign language documents, but having a translation can be helpful for your own understanding and if you ever need to explain the documentation to your accountant. The key information (name, RFC number, tax residency status) is usually clear even without translation. I'd suggest asking your contractors to start this process early since sometimes there can be minor delays if their SAT registration needs updating. Most of mine had it ready within a week, but one contractor had to update some information first which took an extra few days.
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Payton Black
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm currently working on a similar documentary project with Mexican crew and was completely overwhelmed by the tax implications. Based on what I've read here, it sounds like the W-8BEN forms are actually protective rather than punitive for the contractors - they're essentially declaring "I'm not a US person, so don't withhold US taxes from my payments." The US-Mexico tax treaty then backs this up by exempting Mexican residents performing services entirely in Mexico. One follow-up question: do I need to provide my Mexican contractors with any specific documentation or receipts after making their payments, or is keeping the W-8BEN forms in my records sufficient? I want to make sure they have everything they need for their own Mexican tax filings while protecting my LLC from any compliance issues. Also, has anyone dealt with situations where contractors work both independently on your project AND as employees for other Mexican companies? Does this affect their ability to claim treaty benefits as independent contractors for your specific project?
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Zoe Stavros
•You've got the right understanding! The W-8BEN forms are definitely protective for your contractors - they're essentially proving they shouldn't be subject to US withholding. For documentation after payments, you should provide each contractor with a record of what you paid them (like a summary or invoice copy), but you don't need to issue formal tax documents like 1099s since they're foreign contractors. Keep the W-8BEN forms in your LLC records for at least 3 years as others mentioned. Regarding contractors who also work as employees elsewhere in Mexico - this actually doesn't affect their ability to claim treaty benefits for your specific project. The treaty looks at each business relationship independently. As long as they're legitimately working as independent contractors on your documentary (setting their own hours, using their own equipment, etc.), their employee status with other Mexican companies is irrelevant for treaty purposes. The key is that their work relationship with YOUR LLC meets the independent contractor criteria under both US and Mexican standards. Their other employment relationships don't impact this classification.
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Luca Bianchi
This has been such a valuable discussion! As someone who's dealt with international contractor paperwork headaches before, I really appreciate everyone sharing their real experiences rather than just theoretical advice. One thing I'd add that might help others in similar situations: consider setting up a simple spreadsheet to track all your W-8BEN forms and contractor information. Include columns for contractor name, RFC number, W-8BEN completion date, payment amounts, and service dates. This makes it much easier if you ever need to reference everything quickly during tax season or for an audit. Also, from my experience working with contractors in several Latin American countries, Mexican freelancers are generally pretty familiar with these tax treaty concepts since Mexico has similar agreements with other countries. Don't be surprised if some of your crew members are already well-versed in the W-8BEN process - many have dealt with it before on other international projects. The key takeaway seems to be that these forms protect everyone involved when done correctly, rather than creating additional tax burdens. Thanks to everyone who shared their practical experiences here!
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Sean Murphy
•The spreadsheet idea is brilliant! I wish I had thought of that when I was dealing with my first international project. Ended up scrambling through folders of paperwork when my accountant needed everything organized for year-end filing. One additional tip for the spreadsheet - consider adding a column for the specific treaty article each contractor is claiming (like "Article 14" for independent personal services). This makes it super easy to verify that everyone is claiming the correct treaty benefits and helps if you need to explain the basis for your withholding decisions to your accountant or the IRS later. You're absolutely right that many Mexican freelancers are familiar with this process. I was pleasantly surprised when half my crew already knew about W-8BEN forms from previous international work. Made the whole process much smoother than I expected!
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Olivia Martinez
This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm working on my first international documentary project and was completely lost on the tax implications for Mexican crew members. Reading through everyone's experiences, it's clear that W-8BEN forms are actually protective rather than burdensome for contractors. The fact that the US-Mexico tax treaty exempts Mexican residents performing services entirely in Mexico from US withholding is exactly what I needed to know. I particularly appreciate the practical tips about keeping detailed records, using spreadsheets to track everything, and having contractors get their RFC numbers from SAT. The advice about documenting the timeline and location of all work is something I hadn't considered but makes total sense from a compliance perspective. One quick question - for a small indie production like mine, should I be working directly with each contractor on their W-8BEN forms, or is it better to have them work with a local Mexican accountant who's familiar with US tax treaties? I want to make sure everyone fills out Part II correctly to claim treaty benefits, but I'm worried about giving tax advice when I'm still learning this myself.
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Charlie Yang
•You can definitely work directly with your contractors on the W-8BEN forms - they're actually pretty straightforward once you understand the basics. The forms come with instructions, and based on what everyone's shared here, the key parts are making sure they claim Mexican tax residency and reference Article 14 of the US-Mexico treaty in Part II. That said, if any of your contractors are nervous about filling them out or have complex situations, having them consult with a Mexican accountant familiar with international tax treaties isn't a bad idea. Many Mexican CPAs who work with freelancers are well-versed in these forms since Mexico has tax treaties with multiple countries. For a small indie production, I'd suggest taking a hybrid approach: provide your contractors with clear guidance based on what you've learned here (like referencing Article 14 for independent personal services), but let them know they can consult their own tax advisor if they have questions. This way you're being helpful without overstepping into giving formal tax advice. The most important thing is that you collect properly completed forms before making payments and keep them in your records. As long as the forms are filled out correctly, you're protecting both yourself and your contractors.
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Sophia Rodriguez
This discussion has been incredibly helpful for understanding W-8BEN requirements for Mexican contractors! I'm planning a similar project and had the same concerns about whether these forms would create tax obligations for my crew. One practical question that came up while reading through this: when you're making the actual payments to Mexican contractors, are there any specific payment methods or documentation requirements beyond just keeping the W-8BEN forms? For example, should the payment memo or wire transfer description reference the treaty exemption, or is that unnecessary as long as you have the forms on file? Also, I noticed some mentions of banks potentially withholding taxes even with proper documentation. Has anyone found specific banks or payment services that are better at recognizing these treaty exemptions and not creating unnecessary complications during transfers? I want to make sure the payment process is as smooth as possible for my contractors while maintaining proper compliance on my end.
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Raúl Mora
•Great questions! For payment documentation, you don't need to reference the treaty exemption in your payment memos or wire descriptions - the W-8BEN forms in your records are sufficient proof that no withholding is required. Keep your payment descriptions simple and business-focused (like "Documentary production services - Invoice #123"). Regarding banks, I've had good experiences with Wise (as someone mentioned earlier) and also with Mercury for business accounts. Both seem to understand international contractor payments better than traditional banks. I've found that smaller community banks sometimes get confused and try to withhold "just to be safe," which creates headaches for everyone. One tip: if you're using a traditional bank that's being difficult, you can often resolve it by providing them with a copy of the relevant W-8BEN form and explaining that the contractor is claiming treaty benefits. Most banks will release any holds once they see the proper documentation, though it might take a phone call or two to get to someone who understands international tax treaties. The key is having all your W-8BEN forms completed and organized before you start making payments, so you can quickly provide documentation if any questions arise during the transfer process.
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Lucas Parker
I've been following this discussion as someone who recently completed my first documentary project with Mexican crew, and I wanted to share one additional resource that helped me tremendously. The IRS actually has a specific publication (Publication 515) that breaks down withholding requirements for foreign persons, including detailed explanations of how tax treaties work. It's pretty dense reading, but Chapter 3 specifically covers the W-8 forms and treaty claims. Having this official reference helped me feel more confident about the process and gave me something concrete to show my bank when they questioned why I wasn't withholding taxes. What I found particularly useful was that Pub 515 includes examples of different contractor scenarios and shows exactly how treaty benefits apply. It confirmed everything that's been discussed here about Mexican residents performing services entirely in Mexico being exempt from US withholding under the treaty. For anyone still feeling uncertain about the process, having this official IRS publication as backup documentation alongside your W-8BEN forms gives you solid footing if questions ever arise. You can find it on the IRS website or through any tax professional. It's definitely worth the time to at least skim through the relevant sections.
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Ava Martinez
•This is exactly the kind of official backup documentation I was looking for! I've been feeling a bit overwhelmed trying to piece together information from various sources, so having an actual IRS publication that confirms everything discussed here is really reassuring. I just downloaded Publication 515 and you're right - Chapter 3 is incredibly detailed about the W-8 forms and treaty scenarios. The examples are particularly helpful since they show real-world applications rather than just abstract rules. It's giving me much more confidence about moving forward with my Mexican crew paperwork. One thing I noticed in the publication that might be useful for others - it also covers what to do if a contractor's circumstances change during the project (like if they temporarily work in the US). Good to know there are procedures for handling those situations too, even though hopefully most of us won't need them. Thanks for pointing out this resource - having official IRS guidance definitely makes me feel better about the whole process!
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Keisha Taylor
This has been such a comprehensive and helpful discussion! As someone who's about to start my first international documentary project with Mexican crew, I feel so much more confident now about the W-8BEN process. What really stands out to me is how everyone's real-world experiences confirm that these forms are protective rather than punitive - they're helping contractors avoid unnecessary US tax obligations, not creating them. The US-Mexico tax treaty clearly supports Mexican residents performing services entirely in Mexico, and the W-8BEN is just the formal way to claim that protection. I'm definitely going to implement the spreadsheet tracking system that was mentioned, and having Publication 515 as official backup documentation gives me the confidence I need to move forward. It's also reassuring to know that most Mexican freelancers are already familiar with this process from other international projects. Thanks to everyone who shared their practical experiences - this kind of real-world insight is so much more valuable than trying to decipher tax regulations in isolation. Time to get those W-8BEN forms organized and start filming!
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