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Anastasia Sokolov

Understanding Tax Basis of Gifted Stock in a Custodial Account - What's My Capital Gains Basis?

I need some help figuring out the tax basis of shares I recently sold. The history is a bit complicated: My father received stock options while working for a company back in the early 90s. He exercised those options in 1997 and got actual shares of the company stock. When I was 12 (around 2007), he set up a custodial UGMA account for me and transferred those shares into it. The account was in my name but he managed it until I was older. In 2019 (I was 24 by then), I moved all those shares from the UGMA account into my personal brokerage account. From what I understand, this transfer didn't trigger any taxable event. I finally sold all the shares in 2024, and now I'm trying to figure out how to report this on my taxes. What's confusing me is determining the correct tax basis for calculating capital gains. Is my basis what my dad originally paid when he exercised his options back in '97? Or did I get some kind of basis adjustment when the shares were gifted to me through the UGMA account? I'd really appreciate any help or guidance. This is my first time dealing with something like this on my taxes!

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This is actually a common question with gifted securities, especially those that transferred through custodial accounts. The general rule is that when you receive gifted shares, you take the donor's original basis (what your father paid when he exercised the options in 1997). Unlike inheritance where you'd get a stepped-up basis to fair market value at date of death, gifts maintain the original owner's basis. When your father transferred the shares to the UGMA account, that was considered a gift, not a sale or exchange. To properly report this, you'll need to find out what your father originally paid for the shares when he exercised his options in 1997. That becomes your basis for calculating capital gains when you sold in 2024. Make sure you include this on Schedule D of your tax return. If the shares had any stock splits, mergers, or reinvested dividends over those years, those would need to be factored into your basis calculations as well.

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Thanks for the detailed response! Follow up question - what if my dad doesn't have records from that far back? Is there any way to estimate or reconstruct what he might have paid? And does it matter that these were originally from employee stock options rather than shares he purchased on the open market?

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StarSeeker

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If your father doesn't have the original records, you have several options for reconstructing the basis. Start by contacting the company's investor relations department or the brokerage that handled the transaction - they might have historical records. If the company has been acquired or no longer exists, try reaching out to the successor company. For employee stock options specifically, your father might have received documentation showing the exercise price and fair market value at the time of exercise. The difference between these values was likely reported as compensation on his W-2 for that year. If he can find old tax returns from 1997, this might help reconstruct the basis.

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Nia Thompson

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I'm curious - how does this work for employee stock options specifically? My parents gave me some old Microsoft shares that came from their employee options in the 90s and I have literally zero documentation. Would this help with that specific situation?

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This sounds like BS honestly. The IRS doesn't just have records of stock basis from the 90s readily available. I've talked to them directly and they told me they don't keep that kind of historical data, especially for transactions before electronic filing was common. Seems like you're just promoting a service.

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Ethan Wilson

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Another approach for calculating the basis that hasn't been mentioned is to check if the company had any public events around the time your dad exercised his options. Stock option exercises by employees often coincide with specific price points or after vesting periods end. If you know the approximate date in 1997 when he exercised the options, you could look up historical stock prices for that period. Companies like Yahoo Finance offer historical data going back many decades for most public companies. Also worth considering - was this a public company in 1997? Or was it private then and went public later? That would significantly affect how the basis is calculated.

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Thanks for this suggestion! It was definitely a public company back then (one of the larger tech firms of that era). I actually found an old newspaper clipping my dad kept that mentioned the company's stock price around that time, which might help establish what the fair market value was when he exercised. Would that be helpful for establishing basis?

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Ethan Wilson

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That newspaper clipping could be extremely valuable! Fair market value at exercise is a key component for calculating basis with employee stock options. Save that clipping and consider including a copy with your tax return as supporting documentation. For employee stock options, the basis is typically the exercise price plus any amount reported as compensation income on your father's W-2. If the newspaper shows the market price around exercise time, you can estimate the compensation element (market price minus exercise price, multiplied by number of shares).

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Yuki Tanaka

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One thing nobody mentioned - check if any of the shares were ever sold over the years or if all dividends were reinvested. Sometimes with these old custodial accounts, dividends get automatically reinvested which affects your basis. Also if the company was acquired or had spinoffs during that time period you'll need to account for that too.

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Carmen Diaz

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Good point about reinvested dividends! I had shares in a UGMA that had 20+ years of dividend reinvestment. When I finally sold, I had to go through every statement to add up all those small purchases to my basis. Increased my basis by almost 30% from all those reinvestments!

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I dealt with a very similar situation a few years back with inherited stock from my grandfather's employee options at IBM in the 1980s. One resource that helped me tremendously was the IRS Publication 550 (Investment Income and Expenses), which has specific guidance on basis calculations for gifted securities. The key thing to remember is that you need to establish your father's "adjusted basis" at the time of the gift, not just what he originally paid. This includes the exercise price PLUS any compensation income he reported on his W-2 when he exercised the options. If you're still missing records, try contacting the plan administrator (usually the company's HR department or their third-party benefits provider). Even decades later, they sometimes maintain records of employee stock option exercises, especially for larger companies. They might be able to provide a statement showing the exercise date, number of shares, exercise price, and fair market value at exercise. Also keep detailed documentation of your efforts to reconstruct the basis - the IRS generally accepts reasonable estimates when you can demonstrate good faith effort to determine the correct amount.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I hadn't thought about the plan administrator angle - that's a great suggestion. The company my dad worked for is still around and fairly large, so they might indeed have those records. One question about the "adjusted basis" calculation you mentioned - when you say exercise price PLUS compensation income reported on W-2, does that mean I need to find his 1997 tax return? Or would the compensation element typically be documented somewhere else? I'm trying to figure out what specific documents I should be looking for when I contact the company. Also, do you happen to know if there's a statute of limitations on how long companies are required to keep employee stock option records? I'm worried they might have purged records from that far back.

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