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Sean Kelly

How to determine cost basis for gifted stocks from the 1960s-70s that are missing purchase information?

Okay I'm totally at a loss about what to do with these old stocks my grandfather gave me back in 2008. They were originally purchased sometime in the 1960s or early 70s (he couldn't remember exactly when). I finally sold them this year for about $6,000, but I only have cost basis documentation for shares worth about $1,000 of that total. I've tried everything I can think of to find the original purchase price. Called Computershare, they have no records that go back that far. Tried Bank of America too since they were the transfer agent at some point, but they couldn't help either. I've been searching online and some sites say I should use the fair market value of the stocks on the date I received the gift (2008), but others say I need the original purchase price from the 1960s/70s. I'm completely confused about what to put on my tax forms. If I can't find the original cost basis from when my grandfather bought them, am I supposed to use the 2008 value? Or is there some other method I'm missing? I'm worried about getting this wrong and having issues with the IRS later. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Zara Malik

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When dealing with gifted stocks from that far back, you have what's called a "carryover basis" situation. For gifts, your cost basis is generally the same as the original owner's basis (what your grandfather paid). However, when the original cost basis is unknown, IRS rules provide some alternatives. For the portion where you know the cost basis ($1,000 worth), use that known information. For the remaining $5,000 worth with unknown basis, you have a few options: First, try to make a good faith effort to determine the basis - check historical stock prices for the approximate time period, look for old statements your grandfather might have had, or contact the company's investor relations department. If that fails, you can use a "zero basis" approach - meaning you'd pay capital gains tax on the full $5,000. This is the most conservative approach that ensures you won't underpay taxes. Alternatively, if you have some reasonable estimate of when the shares were purchased (even just the year), you could look up historical prices from that time and use your best estimate - just be sure to document your reasoning.

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Luca Greco

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Thanks for the explanation. One question though - wouldn't using a zero basis mean paying way more in taxes than necessary? Seems like there should be some kind of reasonable accommodation for these super old stocks where records just don't exist anymore. Also, does it matter if the stock split multiple times since the original purchase?

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Zara Malik

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Yes, using a zero basis would result in paying more taxes than necessary, which is why it's considered the most conservative approach. The IRS understands that records may not be available for very old securities, which is why they allow for reasonable reconstruction of the basis using available information. If the stock split multiple times, that absolutely affects your calculation. Stock splits don't change the total basis, but they do change how that basis is allocated across shares. You'll need to account for all splits when determining your per-share basis. If you know when splits occurred, you can often find this historical information on the company's investor relations website or through financial data services.

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Nia Thompson

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How accurate is this service for really old stocks? I've got some IBM shares from the 60s and my accountant just told me to guess because "the IRS will never know the difference" which sounds like terrible advice.

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Aisha Hussain

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Does it work for obscure companies too or just major ones like AT&T? My grandfather left me stocks in some manufacturing company that got acquired multiple times, and trying to trace the history is giving me a migraine.

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Nia Thompson

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For old stocks, it's remarkably accurate because they've integrated historical financial databases from several sources. They even account for corporate actions like splits, mergers, and spinoffs that affect basis calculations. Much better than guessing, which could definitely cause problems if you're ever audited. For less common companies, they can still help in most cases. Their database includes over 12,000 securities including many that went through acquisitions or name changes. They actually specialize in these complicated scenarios where companies have changed hands multiple times. They can trace the corporate lineage and apply the appropriate basis adjustments through each transition.

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Aisha Hussain

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Yuki Yamamoto

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Carmen Ruiz

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Have you checked with the transfer agent for the company? That's not Computershare or BofA, but the company that was handling the stock when your grandfather purchased it. Sometimes they maintain records going way back or can provide historical price data.

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Sean Kelly

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I tried that route already but hit a dead end. The company changed transfer agents multiple times since the 60s, and none of the current ones have records going back that far. I did find out from the company's investor relations that there were at least 3 stock splits during the 70s and 80s, but that only complicates things more without knowing the original purchase price.

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Carmen Ruiz

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That's definitely a challenge. Since you know about the splits, that's actually helpful information. Another approach is to use newspaper archives - many libraries have subscriptions to historical newspaper databases where you can look up stock prices from specific dates. If you have even a rough idea when your grandfather bought them (like "sometime in 1968"), you could look up the price range for that year and use an average. Many taxpayers use this newspaper archive method for old securities and document their research process. The IRS generally accepts reasonable efforts to reconstruct basis when original records aren't available. For the documentation, include a note explaining your methodology and why original records couldn't be obtained.

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What about using the "First In, First Out" method? If the stocks were purchased in batches, you could assume the ones you sold were from the earliest purchase date and use the oldest price you can find.

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Zoe Dimitriou

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FIFO only works if you're selling partial positions. The OP sold all their shares, so identification method doesn't matter here. The issue is determining what the original basis was, not which shares were sold.

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QuantumQuest

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I ran into this exact problem last year with some Coca-Cola stock from my great-aunt. If you contact the company's investor relations department directly (not the transfer agent), they sometimes have historical information about stock prices, splits, and dividend reinvestments that can help you piece together a reasonable cost basis. The IRS publication 551 also covers this scenario specifically and allows for reasonable reconstruction of basis when records are unavailable.

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Isabel Vega

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For gifted stocks where the original cost basis is unknown, you'll need to use the donor's basis (carryover basis) as your starting point. Since you can't find records from the 1960s/70s, here's what I'd recommend: 1. **Document your search efforts** - Keep records of all your attempts to find the original basis (calls to Computershare, BofA, etc.). The IRS appreciates good faith efforts. 2. **Use historical price reconstruction** - Since you know the approximate purchase timeframe and the company had multiple stock splits, you can research historical prices from that era. Many financial websites and libraries have historical stock data going back decades. 3. **Consider IRS Publication 551** - This publication specifically addresses situations where basis records are unavailable and provides guidance on reasonable reconstruction methods. 4. **Account for all corporate actions** - Make sure to adjust for all stock splits, dividends, and other corporate actions that occurred between the original purchase and when you received the gift in 2008. 5. **When in doubt, be conservative** - If you can't determine a reasonable basis, using zero basis (paying tax on the full sale amount) is the safest approach, though it results in higher taxes. The key is thorough documentation of your research process. The IRS understands that very old securities often lack complete records, so they generally accept reasonable reconstruction efforts when properly documented.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the historical price reconstruction method - do you have any specific recommendations for where to find reliable historical stock data going back to the 1960s? I've tried some of the free financial websites but they don't seem to go back that far. Also, when you mention accounting for corporate actions, is there a systematic way to track all the splits and dividends that happened over such a long period? That seems like it could get pretty complicated to calculate correctly.

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Ethan Moore

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For historical stock data going back to the 1960s, I'd recommend checking with your local university or public library - many have subscriptions to services like Morningstar Direct or Bloomberg terminals that include extensive historical data. The Center for Research in Security Prices (CRSP) database is another excellent resource that many academic libraries provide access to. For tracking corporate actions systematically, start with the company's investor relations website - they often have a "stock split history" or "dividend history" section. You can also use the SEC's EDGAR database to search for historical 8-K filings that announce stock splits and other corporate actions. A helpful approach is to create a timeline working backwards from 2008 (when you received the gift) to the estimated purchase date. List each corporate action with its effective date and adjustment ratio. Then apply these adjustments in reverse chronological order to determine what your current shares would have cost originally. The calculation can definitely get complex, but the IRS recognizes this and generally accepts reasonable approximations when you document your methodology thoroughly.

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