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Understanding How Tax Brackets Work - Will I Really Lose 35% of My Doctor Salary?

I'm in my junior year of high school and recently started looking into potential careers. Medicine is my top choice right now, and I was researching doctor salaries. I saw something that really shocked me - apparently doctors who make around $380k have to pay like 35% in taxes!? That would be over $130k just gone to taxes! I'm trying to understand how tax brackets actually work. In that kind of income situation, how much of that would I potentially get back as a refund? I know there are deductions and credits and stuff that affect the final numbers. But seriously, there's no way the government just takes $130k from you permanently, right? I'd get at least half of that back in my tax refund... right? This whole tax system seems really confusing and I'm just trying to plan for my future.

Hey there! I can clear this up for you. The tax bracket system is often misunderstood. When people say "35% tax bracket," that doesn't mean ALL your income is taxed at 35%. The US has what's called a "progressive" tax system. This means different portions of your income are taxed at different rates. For example, in 2025, the first ~$12k of income might be tax-free, then the next chunk might be taxed at 10%, the next at 12%, and so on up the brackets. So if you eventually earn $380k as a doctor, only the dollars ABOVE a certain threshold (around $243k for single filers) would be taxed at that higher rate, not your entire income. Your effective tax rate (what you actually pay overall) would be much lower than 35%. As for refunds - that's not getting back "half your taxes." A refund happens when you've had TOO MUCH withheld throughout the year. It's basically money that was already yours that you're getting back, not a gift from the government.

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Oh that makes more sense! So you're saying only the money I make over a certain amount gets taxed at the highest rate? That's a relief. But I'm still confused about refunds then. If I'm in a high tax bracket and they take out too much from my paychecks, couldn't I still get like $30k back as a refund? And are there ways doctors reduce their taxable income?

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Yes, exactly! Only the portion of income that exceeds each threshold gets taxed at the higher rate. This is why your effective tax rate is always lower than your highest bracket rate. Regarding refunds, yes, you could potentially get a large refund if too much is withheld from your paychecks - but that's not ideal! It means you gave the government an interest-free loan of your money. Most financial advisors recommend adjusting your withholdings to get close to zero refund. Doctors have several ways to reduce taxable income: contributing to retirement accounts like 401(k)s and IRAs, HSA contributions, business deductions if self-employed, student loan interest deductions, and potentially setting up tax-advantaged business structures. Many physicians also work with tax professionals to optimize their tax situation.

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Just want to add that my dad's an accountant and he always says most people focus too much on their tax rate and refund, but not enough on retirement accounts which are huge for doctors. Max out your 401k ($24,000/yr in 2025) and that money comes out pre-tax, immediately lowering your taxable income. A lot of doctors also open their own practices eventually, which means you can set up more powerful retirement accounts like SEP IRAs or Solo 401ks with much higher contribution limits. Some physicians can shelter $70k+ from taxes annually this way. Don't stress too much about this now though - by the time you finish med school and residency (10+ years), the tax code will have changed multiple times anyway!

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I've heard about 401ks but didn't realize they could help with taxes too. Does that mean if I put money in retirement accounts, I could actually drop into a lower tax bracket? And what's this about physicians sheltering $70k? That sounds really useful!

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Yes, contributing to retirement accounts can potentially drop you into a lower tax bracket by reducing your taxable income. For example, if you're just over the threshold of a higher bracket, retirement contributions could push you back down. Every dollar you put into a traditional 401k or IRA is deducted from your taxable income for that year. The $70k+ sheltering comes from specialized retirement options for self-employed physicians. Once you own your practice, you can set up a Solo 401k where you contribute both as employee AND employer. In 2025, self-employed individuals can contribute up to around $69,000 total between both parts. Some doctors also use Defined Benefit Plans, which can allow even higher contributions depending on age and income. These strategies are perfectly legal tax avoidance (not evasion), and the government encourages retirement saving through these tax incentives.

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anyone else confused why OP is stressing about doctor taxes when they haven't even finished high school yet? lol you got like 12+ years before this is even relevant. 4 years college + 4 years med school + 4-7 years residency/fellowship before you make "real doctor money" tax code will change like 6 times before then anyway. focus on getting good grades first buddy 😂

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Harsh but true. Plus by the time you're making attending physician salary, you'll also have around $300k in student loans to pay off. Your concern shouldn't be the tax bracket but how to manage that debt efficiently.

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - doctors have lots of tax deductions most people don't get! My wife's a pulmonologist and she deducts: - Medical malpractice insurance - Continuing education costs - Medical journal subscriptions - Home office expenses - Professional association dues - Licensing fees Plus if you work at multiple hospitals you can deduct mileage between them. All this can easily save you $15-20k in taxes annually! Don't focus just on tax brackets - the deductions matter a ton for professionals.

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