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Diego Flores

Is 21% for taxes taken off my paycheck normal for first W2 job?

So I just started my first W2 job and I'm kinda surprised at how much is coming out of my paycheck for taxes. I'm looking at my pay stub and it shows that about 21% of my gross income is going to taxes! I'll probably make somewhere around $52,000-$57,000 this year. I've never had a job with regular withholding before so this is all new to me. Is this normal? It seems like a huge chunk of money. I'm trying to budget and figure out my actual take-home pay, but this is throwing me off. Also, I'm wondering if this means I'll get some of this back when I file my taxes next year? Like do they intentionally take out more than needed and then refund it or something? I'm completely lost when it comes to how all this tax withholding stuff works.

This is totally normal! When you have a W2 job, your employer is required to withhold taxes from each paycheck. That 21% probably includes federal income tax, Social Security tax (6.2%), Medicare tax (1.45%), and possibly state and local taxes depending on where you live. The federal income tax withholding is based on the W-4 form you filled out when you started the job. The withholding amount is an estimate of what you'll owe for the year, spread across all your paychecks. And yes, you might get some back as a refund when you file your taxes next year! If more was withheld than you actually owe, you'll get the difference back as a refund. If not enough was withheld, you'll need to pay the difference when you file.

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Diego Flores

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Thanks for explaining! So is there any way to adjust how much they take out? I feel like I could use more money now than getting a refund later.

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You can definitely adjust your withholding! Ask your HR department for a new W-4 form. The more allowances you claim, the less tax will be withheld. Just be careful not to underwithhold too much, or you could end up owing a lot at tax time plus possible penalties if you're too far off. Also, keep in mind that while getting a big refund feels nice, it essentially means you've been giving the government an interest-free loan all year. Many financial advisors suggest adjusting your withholding to get your refund close to zero, then putting that extra take-home pay toward savings or investments throughout the year.

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Sean Flanagan

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Zara Mirza

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Does it help with figuring out how to adjust your W-4 to get more money during the year? I'm also tired of big refunds and want to keep more of my money now.

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NebulaNinja

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Sounds interesting but can it actually help with state taxes too? My state tax situation is complicated because I work remotely for a company in another state.

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Sean Flanagan

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Yes, it helps with W-4 adjustments! It has a calculator that shows how changing your W-4 will affect your take-home pay vs. your refund. You can play around with different scenarios until you find the balance that works for you. I adjusted mine to get about $150 more per month instead of a big refund. For state taxes, it definitely handles multi-state situations. You enter your residence state and work state, and it explains which state taxes apply and how they interact. I know several remote workers who use it specifically for this reason since those situations can get messy fast.

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Zara Mirza

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Just wanted to follow up about taxr.ai that was mentioned earlier. I was skeptical but tried it out last month, and wow it was eye-opening! I uploaded my pay stubs and discovered I was having way too much withheld for federal taxes. The tool showed me exactly how to fill out my W-4 to get about $200 more per paycheck. Already submitted the new form to HR and my last paycheck had the adjustment. That extra money is going straight into my emergency fund! Wish I'd known about this years ago instead of giving interest-free loans to the government.

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Luca Russo

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If you think dealing with paycheck withholding is confusing, wait until you have a question and try calling the IRS directly lol. I spent 3 hours on hold last month trying to ask about my withholding and never got through. Then I found https://claimyr.com which has been a game changer. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c Basically they hold your place in line with the IRS and call you back when an agent is available. I was super skeptical at first but it worked perfectly. Got a call back in about an hour and spoke to a real IRS agent who answered all my withholding questions. Turns out I had filled out my W-4 wrong which is why so much was coming out of my checks!

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Nia Wilson

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Wait, how does this even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously awful. What's the catch here? Do they charge a ton of money or something?

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Mateo Sanchez

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Yeah right, no way this actually works. The IRS phone system is designed to be impossible. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Luca Russo

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There's no complicated system - they use technology that maintains your place in the phone queue and then connects you when an agent is available. It's basically like having someone else sit on hold for you. You go about your day and then get a call when it's your turn to speak to an agent. As for the skepticism, I totally get it. I thought the same thing until I tried it. The best part was actually getting to talk to someone who could answer my specific questions about my withholding situation. Way better than trying to figure it out from random internet advice.

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Mateo Sanchez

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Ok I have to publicly eat my words. After being super skeptical about that Claimyr service, I decided to try it yesterday because I was desperate to fix my withholding situation. I ACTUALLY got a call back in about 40 minutes with a real live IRS person on the line! They walked me through exactly how to adjust my W-4 for my situation. My mind is blown. I've literally never been able to reach anyone at the IRS before. The agent was actually really nice and helped me figure out that I should be claiming an additional deduction I didn't know about. Should save me about $75 per paycheck!

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Aisha Mahmood

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - check if your employer offers a 401k! Contributing to that will lower your taxable income and therefore reduce the taxes taken from your paycheck. Plus you're saving for retirement. I put 10% of my paycheck into my 401k and it lowered my withholding quite a bit.

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Ethan Clark

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Does a 401k contribution affect the Social Security and Medicare withholding too or just the federal income tax part?

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Aisha Mahmood

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It only affects federal income tax withholding, not Social Security or Medicare. Those taxes (sometimes called FICA) are always calculated on your full gross pay before any deductions. But reducing your federal income tax withholding can still make a significant difference in your take-home pay.

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AstroAce

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Something else to consider - check if you're having state taxes withheld if you live in a state with no income tax! When I started my job they automatically withheld state taxes even though I live in Florida which has no state income tax. Had to tell HR to fix it.

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Good point! I had the opposite problem. I moved from Nevada (no state tax) to California and forgot to update my W-4 to include state withholding. Got hit with a HUGE tax bill that April. Painful lesson.

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AstroAce

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Ouch, that's even worse! California has pretty high state taxes too. I bet that was an unpleasant surprise come tax time. It's crazy how much these little details can impact your finances.

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Carmen Flores

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Welcome to the world of W2 employment! That 21% withholding rate is actually pretty typical for your income level. Here's a rough breakdown of what you're probably seeing: - Federal income tax: ~12-15% (depends on your W-4 filing status and allowances) - Social Security: 6.2% - Medicare: 1.45% - State tax: varies by state, could be 0-8%+ - Possibly local taxes or SDI depending on your location The good news is that withholding is just an estimate - it's designed to get you close to what you'll actually owe. When you file your tax return next year, you'll either get a refund if too much was withheld, or owe a bit more if not enough was taken out. Pro tip: Keep your first few pay stubs and compare them when you do your taxes next year. This will help you understand whether your withholding is on target or if you need to adjust your W-4 for the following year. Most people prefer to get a small refund rather than owe money, but you don't want to give the government too big of an interest-free loan either!

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Joshua Hellan

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Just wanted to add my perspective as someone who went through this exact same shock a few years ago! That 21% is definitely normal - I remember feeling like I was being robbed when I saw my first real paycheck. One thing that really helped me was setting up a simple spreadsheet to track my paystubs throughout the year. I'd note the gross pay, total taxes withheld, and my take-home amount. By the time tax season rolled around, I had a clear picture of whether I was on track for a refund or if I'd owe money. Also, don't forget that some of those "taxes" might actually be beneficial deductions! Things like health insurance premiums, dental/vision coverage, or retirement contributions show up as deductions but they're going toward your benefits. Make sure you're reading your paystub carefully to understand what's actually tax withholding versus other deductions. The learning curve is steep at first, but you'll get the hang of it. And honestly, once you understand how it all works, you can make strategic decisions about things like retirement contributions or flexible spending accounts that can help optimize your take-home pay while reducing your tax burden.

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This is such great advice about tracking paystubs! I wish someone had told me to do this when I started. I just got my first W2 job a couple months ago and was also shocked by how much comes out. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I'm definitely going to start doing that so I can see the patterns over the year. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same sticker shock. I keep second-guessing whether I filled out my W-4 correctly or if I should be claiming more allowances. Did you end up adjusting your withholding after tracking it for a while, or did you find it was pretty accurate from the start?

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