Understanding Form 1099-R Code E for excess 401k contributions - taxable or not?
So I'm dealing with this weird situation with my 401k where I had to return some excess after-tax contributions, and now I'm totally confused about the tax implications. I got a Form 1099-R that shows distribution code E in box 7. I received this form a few weeks ago, and honestly, I thought these distributions wouldn't be taxable since they were AFTER-tax contributions to begin with. But then I got this notice from the IRS saying the entire $5,750 distribution is taxable income! What the heck? Looking at the form, box 1 has $5,750 and box 5 also has exactly the same amount ($5,750). All the other boxes are completely empty except for that code E in box 7. I'm really confused because if I already paid taxes on this money before putting it in my 401k, why would I have to pay taxes AGAIN when it's returned to me? That seems like double taxation. Has anyone dealt with this before? Am I missing something about how code E works for excess 401k contribution returns? Any insight would be super helpful because this is stressing me out!
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Sarah Ali
This is actually a common point of confusion, but you're right to question it. When you receive a 1099-R with Code E for returned excess after-tax contributions, those amounts should NOT be taxable again. Code E specifically indicates a distribution of excess contributions plus earnings from a qualified plan. Looking at your form, the fact that Box 1 ($5,750) and Box 5 ($5,750) show the same amount is actually good news. Box 5 represents the non-taxable portion of the distribution, so when Box 1 equals Box 5, this indicates the entire distribution is non-taxable. The IRS notice you received is likely an automated response because the system sees a 1099-R form reported but doesn't automatically recognize the Code E context. This happens quite often with these types of distributions. You should respond to the IRS notice by explaining that this was a return of after-tax contributions (with Code E) and that the amount in Box 5 equals the amount in Box 1, indicating none of the distribution should be taxable.
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Ryan Vasquez
•Are you 100% sure about this? I had a similar situation where I thought my returned after-tax contributions wouldn't be taxable, but my accountant said part of it could still be taxable if there were any earnings on those contributions. Does it matter if there were any gains on the money while it was in the account?
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Sarah Ali
•Yes, that's an important distinction. If there were earnings on the excess contributions, those earnings would be taxable. However, in this specific case, since Box 1 and Box 5 show identical amounts, it indicates there were no earnings being distributed - just the original after-tax contributions. If there had been earnings, Box 1 would show the total distribution amount, while Box 5 would only show the portion representing the after-tax contributions, making the difference (the earnings) taxable. When they match exactly like this, it means the entire distribution consists of non-taxable after-tax contributions.
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Avery Saint
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Taylor Chen
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Keith Davidson
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Avery Saint
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Keith Davidson
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Ezra Bates
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Ana Erdoğan
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Sophia Carson
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Ezra Bates
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Sophia Carson
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Elijah Knight
Just to add another data point here - I had the EXACT same thing happen two years ago. Code E with matching amounts in Box 1 and Box 5. The key thing to understand is that Code E means "distribution of excess contributions plus earnings." In your case, since Box 1 and Box 5 are identical, there were no earnings on your excess contributions - it was just a straight return of after-tax money. When I got my IRS notice, I responded with a letter explaining: 1) This was a return of after-tax contributions (Code E) 2) Box 5 showed the same amount as Box 1, meaning the entire distribution was non-taxable 3) I'd already paid tax on this money before contributing it They cleared it up within about 6 weeks. Don't pay tax on this again - you're absolutely right to question it!
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Megan D'Acosta
•Thanks so much for this detailed explanation! This is exactly the situation I'm in. Did you need to include any special forms or documentation with your response letter to the IRS, or was the explanation enough?
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Elijah Knight
•I just included a copy of the 1099-R showing the matching Box 1 and Box 5 amounts and Code E. I also attached a brief statement from my 401k administrator confirming these were returned after-tax contributions. The explanation letter did most of the work though. I made sure to reference the specific notice number they sent me and my taxpayer ID. I think what helps is being very clear and specific about the technical details - specifically mentioning Code E and the fact that Box 1 equals Box 5, which indicates no taxable portion.
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Brooklyn Foley
Anyone else notice that when dealing with retirement accounts, the IRS computers seem to automatically flag anything that doesn't fit their standard patterns? I get that they're trying to catch underreported income but its so frustrating when dealing with legitimate transactions like excess contribution returns.
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Jay Lincoln
•Yeah, I work as a benefits administrator and see this constantly. The IRS automated systems are designed to match reported forms against tax returns, but they don't have the nuance to understand special codes and circumstances without human intervention. Code E, F, G, and J distributions frequently get flagged incorrectly.
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QuantumQuasar
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar Code E situation but my Box 1 shows $3,200 while Box 5 shows $2,850. Based on what everyone's saying here, does this mean $350 of my distribution would be taxable earnings while the $2,850 represents my non-taxable after-tax contributions being returned? I'm trying to understand if I need to report just the difference as taxable income or if there's something else I'm missing. My 401k provider wasn't very helpful when I called them about it.
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Nathan Kim
•Yes, you've got it exactly right! When Box 1 and Box 5 show different amounts on a Code E distribution, the difference represents taxable earnings on your excess contributions. In your case, $350 ($3,200 - $2,850) would be considered taxable income that you need to report on your tax return. The $2,850 in Box 5 represents your original after-tax contributions being returned, which shouldn't be taxed again since you already paid tax on that money before contributing it to your 401k. Only the $350 in earnings needs to be included as taxable income. Make sure to report this correctly on your return - you'll want to show the $350 as taxable income from the retirement plan distribution. This is different from the original poster's situation where Box 1 and Box 5 matched exactly, meaning there were no taxable earnings at all.
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QuantumLeap
This is exactly why I always recommend keeping detailed records of your 401k contributions, especially when you're making after-tax contributions. The IRS automated system doesn't understand the nuances of these transactions and will often send scary notices that make you think you owe taxes when you don't. I had a similar Code E situation three years ago and nearly paid the tax twice before realizing my mistake. What helped me was calling my 401k plan administrator and asking them to send me a detailed breakdown showing that the returned amount was indeed my after-tax contributions with no earnings. For anyone in this situation - don't panic when you get that IRS notice. Take time to understand what the codes mean on your 1099-R form. Code E with matching Box 1 and Box 5 amounts is your friend - it means you're getting back money you already paid taxes on. Just make sure to respond to the IRS with a clear explanation and documentation to avoid any further confusion.
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Mateo Warren
•This is such great advice! I wish I had known to keep better records of my after-tax contributions from the beginning. I'm just starting to make after-tax contributions to my 401k this year, and after reading all these horror stories about IRS notices, I'm definitely going to document everything carefully. Do you recommend keeping copies of pay stubs showing the after-tax deductions, or is there a better way to track this? I want to make sure I have everything I need if I ever end up in a situation like the original poster where I need to prove these were already-taxed contributions.
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Ethan Taylor
•Yes, definitely keep copies of your pay stubs showing the after-tax deductions! I also recommend downloading your annual 401k statements and any year-end summaries that break down pre-tax vs after-tax contributions. Most plan administrators provide a detailed breakdown in their year-end statements. Another thing that saved me was keeping a simple spreadsheet tracking my after-tax contributions by pay period. When I had my Code E situation, I was able to cross-reference my records with what the plan administrator reported and caught a small discrepancy that could have caused issues later. Also, if your plan allows mega backdoor Roth conversions, keep records of any in-plan conversions you do throughout the year. This helps distinguish between true after-tax contributions that should be non-taxable when returned versus any earnings that might have accumulated before conversion.
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Elijah Brown
I'm dealing with something very similar right now! Got a Code E distribution for $4,200 where Box 1 and Box 5 match exactly, and the IRS sent me one of those automated notices claiming the whole thing is taxable income. Reading through everyone's experiences here is so reassuring - I was starting to think I was going crazy or missing something obvious. It's frustrating that the IRS automated system can't distinguish between legitimate returns of after-tax contributions and actual taxable distributions. I'm going to follow the advice here and send them a detailed response letter explaining that this was a return of after-tax contributions with Code E, and that the matching Box 1 and Box 5 amounts indicate no taxable portion. Hopefully they'll clear it up without too much back-and-forth. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it's incredibly helpful to know I'm not alone in dealing with this confusing situation!
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