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Understanding FICA Taxes on Restricted Stock Units (RSUs) in USA - Who Pays What?

Hey everyone, I'm trying to wrap my head around how FICA taxes actually work when it comes to RSUs. I know with normal salary, there's about a 7.7% FICA tax I pay, and my employer pays another 7.7% (roughly). But what happens with Restricted Stock Units when they vest? Do I end up paying the full 15.3% FICA myself? Or is my employer still required to match and pay their portion like they do with regular salary? I'm not concerned about the withholding part - I want to understand the actual tax liability breakdown. This is my first RSU grant that's vesting soon and I want to make sure I'm not surprised by an unexpected tax hit. Any insights from people who've dealt with this before?

RSUs are considered supplemental wages for tax purposes, and the good news is that the FICA tax treatment is the same as your regular salary. Your employer is required to pay their portion (7.65%) of FICA taxes on the fair market value of RSUs at vesting, just like they do for your regular wages. You'll only be responsible for the employee portion (also 7.65%), not the full 15.3%. When RSUs vest, they're treated as ordinary income equal to the fair market value of the shares on the vesting date. This amount gets reported on your W-2 and is subject to federal income tax, state income tax (if applicable), and FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare). The employer can't choose whether to pay their portion of FICA - it's mandatory. Keep in mind that if your income exceeds the Social Security wage base ($168,600 for 2024), you'll stop paying the Social Security portion (6.2%) on income above that threshold, but the Medicare portion (1.45%) continues regardless of income level. And if your income is high enough, you might be subject to the Additional Medicare Tax of 0.9%.

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Thanks, that's helpful. So just to be clear, the company HAS to pay their 7.65% for RSUs, they can't just pass that on to the employee? Also, what about the additional Medicare tax? If my RSUs push me over the threshold for that, who pays that part?

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Yes, the company absolutely must pay their 7.65% FICA portion on RSUs - it's not optional and they cannot legally pass that cost to you. This is a mandatory employer tax obligation just like with regular salary. For the Additional Medicare Tax of 0.9% that kicks in when your income exceeds $200,000 (single) or $250,000 (married filing jointly), this is solely an employee tax. The employer doesn't pay any matching portion of this additional tax. They're required to start withholding it once your wages exceed $200,000 for the year, but you're the only one paying it.

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I've been using https://taxr.ai to navigate my RSU tax situation and it's been super helpful. My company started offering RSUs last year and I was completely confused about all the tax implications. The site has this document analysis feature where you can upload your RSU grant paperwork and it breaks down the exact tax treatment - federal, state, FICA, everything. What I found most useful was that it showed me exactly what my employer would handle versus what I needed to account for. Plus it calculated my net shares after taxes since my company does sell-to-cover for tax withholding. Definitely made tax season less stressful since I knew exactly what to expect.

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How accurate is it though? My company is based in California but I work remotely from Texas. Can this tool handle multi-state RSU tax situations? I've had conflicting advice from coworkers about how my RSUs should be taxed.

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I'm skeptical about these online calculators. My company's RSU plan has some weird provisions about performance multipliers that affect vesting. Would this work with complicated vesting schedules or just standard time-based vesting?

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The multi-state functionality is actually what impressed me most. I work remotely between Colorado and Arizona, and it correctly identified the tax treatment for each state's portion of my income. It asks you to provide your work location history which helps it calculate the correct allocation. For complicated vesting schedules, it handles those too. You can input performance-based multipliers and other special provisions. My company has a weird partial accelerated vesting clause if certain revenue targets are hit, and the tool was able to model different scenarios for me. It's not just a basic calculator - it actually understands the legal language in RSU agreements.

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Just wanted to follow up about taxr.ai - I gave it a try after our conversation and it was exactly what I needed. My situation with working remotely from Texas while my company is in California was perfectly addressed. The tool showed me that my RSUs aren't subject to California state income tax since I'm performing all work in Texas, which saved me thousands. It also confirmed what was mentioned earlier about FICA - my employer definitely pays their portion (7.65%) and I only pay my portion. The tool even showed me a breakdown of how much of my vesting would go to Social Security vs Medicare. Definitely recommend it to anyone dealing with RSU tax questions.

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If you're struggling to get answers from your company's HR or payroll department about RSU tax treatment, I found a service called Claimyr that can actually get you through to a live IRS agent to answer these questions: https://claimyr.com I was getting frustrated with contradictory information online about my specific RSU situation, so I wanted to hear directly from the IRS. Normally you'd wait on hold for hours (or get disconnected), but I used their service and got connected to an agent in about 15 minutes. There's also a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent confirmed all the FICA details - employer must pay their portion on RSUs just like regular wages, and clarified some questions I had about quarterly estimated tax payments for my RSU income. Worth it to get authoritative information directly from the source.

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How does this even work? I thought getting through to the IRS was basically impossible. Is this legit or just another way to get scammed? The IRS already makes me nervous.

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Yeah right, like the IRS is actually going to give you helpful information. I've called them three times about my RSU treatment and got three completely different answers. I'll believe this works when I see it.

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It's completely legitimate - they use an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When an actual agent picks up, you get a call connecting you directly to them. Nothing sketchy about it - you're talking to real IRS agents, just without the hours of waiting. As for getting consistent information, I had the same concern. I made sure to call during morning hours when the more experienced agents tend to be working, and I had my specific questions written down very clearly. The agent I spoke with was knowledgeable about RSU treatment and explained everything clearly, even emailed me some relevant IRS publications afterward.

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I take back what I said about Claimyr. I was super skeptical, but I tried it this morning and got through to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes. The agent confirmed everything about the FICA split on RSUs and even helped me understand how to report some weird RSUs I received that had a mix of time-based and performance-based vesting. I've literally spent days trying to get this information on my own, calling the IRS directly and giving up after 1+ hour hold times. This actually saved me a ton of time and stress. The IRS agent I spoke with was surprisingly helpful and patient with all my questions. Definitely changed my mind about being able to get clear tax info from the IRS.

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One thing to remember about RSUs and FICA - if you're getting a large grant that vests in chunks throughout the year, make sure you're tracking the Social Security wage base limit ($168,600 for 2024). Once your total compensation exceeds that amount for the year, your employer should stop withholding the Social Security portion (6.2%) from your paychecks, but they'll continue withholding the Medicare portion (1.45%). However, I've seen payroll systems mess this up with RSUs because they sometimes process them separately from regular payroll. If you notice they're still taking out the full 7.65% FICA after you've exceeded the SS wage base, bring it to your company's attention - you can get that money back when you file your tax return, but it's better to not overpay in the first place.

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What about if my RSUs vest monthly? Does the payroll system usually get this right, or should I be monitoring it closely? I'm going to hit the SS limit around October this year with my salary alone, and then I have RSUs vesting in November and December.

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For monthly vesting, you definitely want to keep a close eye on it once you approach the Social Security limit. Most modern payroll systems should get it right if both your salary and RSUs are processed through the same payroll system. But I've seen issues arise specifically when companies use a separate stock administrator. In your case, since you'll hit the SS limit with just your salary around October, make sure to check your November and December RSU vesting statements carefully. They should only be withholding the Medicare portion (1.45%) at that point, not the full FICA amount. If they get it wrong, contact your payroll department right away - it's much easier to fix before the end of the calendar year.

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Does anyone know if the employer portion of FICA on RSUs affects the value of the shares you receive? I'm trying to figure out if the 7.65% my employer pays comes out of my grant somehow, or if it's completely separate from my compensation.

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Mei Lin

The employer portion doesn't affect your share value or how many shares you receive. It's a separate expense for the company, just like the employer FICA they pay on your regular salary. Your RSU income is the fair market value of the shares on vesting date, and that's what appears on your W-2. The employer FICA is completely separate from that.

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Great thread everyone! As someone who's been through multiple RSU vesting cycles, I wanted to add one more important point about timing. The FICA taxes on your RSUs are calculated based on the fair market value on the actual vesting date, not when the grant was made or when you sell the shares. This means if your company stock has appreciated significantly since your grant date, you'll owe FICA taxes on the higher current value. For example, if you were granted RSUs when the stock was $50/share but they vest when it's $100/share, you'll pay FICA on $100/share worth of income. Also, if you're planning any major financial moves (like buying a house), remember that RSU vesting income counts toward your gross income for mortgage qualification purposes. The FICA treatment is straightforward as everyone mentioned, but the income recognition can sometimes catch people off guard when they're calculating their total annual income.

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This is such a crucial point about the timing! I just went through my first RSU vesting and was shocked at how much the tax hit was compared to what I expected. My company's stock had nearly doubled since my grant date, so I ended up with a much larger tax bill than I had budgeted for. One thing I learned the hard way is to set aside cash throughout the year for the tax liability, especially if your company stock is volatile. I made the mistake of assuming the tax would be based on the grant price and didn't save enough. Now I check the current stock price quarterly and adjust my tax savings accordingly. Also, @2a7508cd234c, your point about mortgage qualification is spot on. The lender counted my RSU income as part of my annual salary, which actually helped me qualify for a better rate, but I had to provide documentation showing the vesting schedule to prove it was recurring income.

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Thanks for all the detailed info everyone! I'm dealing with a slightly different situation - my company is doing a "net share settlement" where they automatically sell enough shares to cover all taxes (federal, state, FICA) and give me the remaining shares. Does this change anything about the FICA treatment? I'm assuming my employer still pays their 7.65% portion on the full vesting value, but I want to make sure the net settlement doesn't somehow shift more of the tax burden to me. Also, has anyone dealt with RSUs from a company that went public recently? My startup just IPO'd last year and I'm not sure if there are any special considerations for RSUs that were granted pre-IPO but are vesting post-IPO. The tax implications seem more complex than the standard RSU scenarios everyone's been discussing.

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Net share settlement doesn't change the FICA treatment at all - your employer still pays their 7.65% portion on the full fair market value at vesting, just like with any other RSU arrangement. The fact that they're automatically selling shares to cover your tax obligations is just a convenience feature and doesn't shift any additional tax burden to you. For your post-IPO RSUs that were granted pre-IPO, the tax treatment is actually the same as standard RSUs once they vest. The key difference is that pre-IPO grants often had no tax consequences when granted (since there was no public market value), but now that there's a liquid market, each vesting event is taxed as ordinary income at fair market value. One thing to watch out for with recently public companies is stock price volatility around vesting dates. Make sure your company's net settlement calculation is using the correct closing price on the actual vesting date. I've seen some payroll systems get confused with newly public stocks and use outdated pricing, which can result in under-withholding taxes if the stock price has jumped. Also, double-check that your net settlement is covering estimated state taxes if applicable - some companies only withhold federal taxes and FICA in their automatic calculations.

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This has been an incredibly helpful thread! I've been putting off understanding my RSU tax situation for months, but reading through everyone's experiences has clarified so much. Just to summarize what I've learned for other newcomers: Your employer MUST pay their 7.65% FICA portion on RSUs (it's not optional), you only pay your employee portion (7.65%), and the taxes are based on fair market value at vesting date, not grant date. The additional Medicare tax of 0.9% is employee-only once you exceed the income thresholds. One question I still have - if I have RSUs vesting in multiple tranches throughout the year, does each vesting event get taxed separately, or does it all get lumped together on my W-2? I'm trying to figure out if I need to make quarterly estimated payments or if the withholding from each vesting will cover me for the year. Also really appreciate the tool recommendations - going to check out both taxr.ai and potentially use Claimyr if I need to talk to the IRS directly. Sometimes you really do need authoritative answers rather than trying to piece things together from random internet sources.

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Great summary! Each RSU vesting event is treated as a separate taxable event, but they all get combined on your W-2 at year-end along with your regular salary. The key thing to watch is whether your company's withholding on each vesting event is adequate to cover your total tax liability. Since RSUs are often withheld at the supplemental wage rate (22% for federal, or potentially higher if you're in a high tax bracket), you might find that the withholding isn't quite enough if you're in a higher marginal tax bracket. This is especially true if you have multiple large vesting events in one year. I'd recommend doing a mid-year tax projection once you have a few vesting events under your belt to see if you need to make estimated payments. The IRS safe harbor rules can help here - if you pay at least 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your AGI was over $150K), you won't owe penalties even if you're short on withholding. Both tools you mentioned are solid choices. I found that getting direct IRS guidance was particularly helpful for understanding how RSUs interact with other equity compensation if your company has multiple types of stock plans.

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This thread has been incredibly educational! I'm in a similar situation as the original poster - first-time RSU recipient and completely overwhelmed by the tax implications. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the impact of company stock buyback programs on RSU taxation. My employer has an active share repurchase program, and I'm wondering if that affects the fair market value calculation for FICA purposes when my RSUs vest. Does anyone know if stock buybacks create any special considerations for RSU tax treatment? Also, for those who mentioned using net share settlement - do you have any visibility into exactly how much your employer paid in FICA taxes on your behalf? I'd love to understand the total cost to my company when my RSUs vest, both for my own curiosity and to better appreciate the full value of the compensation package. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences and tool recommendations. This is exactly the kind of practical information you can't easily find in IRS publications!

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Great questions! Regarding stock buyback programs, they don't directly affect the fair market value calculation for your RSU taxation. The FMV is still based on the closing stock price on the vesting date, which already reflects all market factors including any buyback activity. Buybacks might influence the stock price over time, but they don't create separate tax calculations. As for visibility into employer FICA costs, most companies don't provide this breakdown in your pay stubs or vesting statements since it's their expense, not yours. However, you can calculate it yourself - just multiply your RSU vesting value by 7.65%. For example, if $10,000 worth of RSUs vest, your employer paid $765 in FICA taxes on your behalf. Some companies do include total compensation statements annually that show employer-paid benefits and taxes, but it varies by company. You might ask your HR team if they provide this kind of reporting. Understanding the full cost definitely helps appreciate the complete compensation package! The tools mentioned earlier like taxr.ai might also show you these calculations when you input your RSU details, giving you that complete picture of what's happening behind the scenes.

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This has been such a valuable discussion! I'm also dealing with my first RSU vesting and was completely confused about the FICA implications. Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly helpful. One additional consideration I discovered through my company's benefits team - if you're contributing to a 401(k), your RSU income counts toward the annual compensation limit for retirement plan purposes ($345,000 for 2024). This could affect your ability to make certain types of retirement contributions later in the year if you have large RSU vestings. Also, for anyone dealing with estimated tax payments, I learned that you can adjust your regular paycheck withholding to account for upcoming RSU vestings rather than making separate quarterly payments. This can be easier to manage if you know your vesting schedule in advance. The point about tracking the Social Security wage base limit is crucial - I'm planning to create a simple spreadsheet to monitor this throughout the year since I have monthly vestings. Better to stay on top of it than discover overpayment at tax time. Thanks to everyone who shared the tool recommendations. It's refreshing to find resources that can handle the complexity of equity compensation rather than just basic tax scenarios.

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive information I was hoping to find! Your point about the 401(k) compensation limit is something I hadn't even considered - I'll definitely need to factor that into my retirement planning since I'm expecting some significant RSU vestings this year. The idea of adjusting regular paycheck withholding instead of making estimated payments is brilliant. I was dreading the quarterly payment process, but if I can just increase my W-4 withholding to cover the expected RSU tax liability, that sounds much more manageable. Do you know if there are any limits to how much extra you can have withheld from regular paychecks? I'm also going to set up that spreadsheet for tracking the Social Security wage base - especially since several people mentioned payroll systems sometimes getting this wrong with RSUs. Better safe than sorry! It's amazing how much practical knowledge gets shared in threads like this versus what you can find in official tax documentation. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their real-world experiences with RSU taxation.

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This thread has been absolutely fantastic - exactly what I needed as someone navigating RSUs for the first time! I've learned so much from everyone's experiences. One thing I'm still unclear about: if my company does automatic tax withholding on RSU vestings but doesn't withhold enough to cover my actual tax liability (since I'm in a higher bracket), can I request additional withholding specifically for future RSU vestings? Or do I need to handle that through my regular paycheck withholding or estimated payments? Also, I noticed some people mentioned performance-based RSUs - my company has a mix of time-based and performance-based grants. For the performance-based ones, is the FICA tax calculated on the original grant value or the actual shares that vest after performance multipliers are applied? I'm trying to plan for a potential scenario where performance targets are exceeded and I end up with more shares than originally granted. The tool recommendations have been super helpful - definitely going to try taxr.ai for my specific situation. It's refreshing to find resources that can handle complex equity scenarios rather than just basic tax calculators. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences!

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