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Understanding 1040 tax returns vs W2 forms - which one shows my ex's complete income?

Title: Understanding 1040 tax returns vs W2 forms - which one shows my ex's complete income? 1 I'm in the middle of a messy divorce situation and trying to figure out this US tax document thing. My ex worked in the US for several years while I was living abroad, and he's only provided a W2 form as proof of income for our divorce proceedings. However, I've heard that the Form 1040 tax return shows a more complete financial picture than just the W2. Since I wasn't living in the US during this time, I'm completely confused about how the tax system works there. Does everyone who files taxes in the USA have to submit a 1040 form, or do some people just get a W2? Would the 1040 show additional income sources that might not appear on the W2? This could make a big difference in our settlement. Thanks for any help explaining this!

Gavin King

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2 The W2 and 1040 serve completely different purposes in the US tax system. The W2 is what an employer provides to employees showing wages paid and taxes withheld during the year. The 1040 is the actual tax return that individuals file with the IRS. Everyone who files taxes in the US submits some version of Form 1040 (whether it's the standard 1040, 1040-SR, or 1040-EZ which was used in previous years). The W2 is just one of potentially many documents that provide information needed to complete the 1040. For divorce proceedings, the 1040 would definitely give you a more complete picture because it shows ALL reported income, not just from a single employer. The 1040 would include any additional income sources like self-employment, investments, rental properties, etc. It also shows deductions, credits, and the final tax calculation. Your ex should have filed a 1040 (or variant) if they were working in the US legally.

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Gavin King

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3 Thanks for explaining! So if my ex only gave me the W2, does that mean they might be hiding other income sources? Would bank statements show the same information as the 1040, or is the tax return the only way to see everything?

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Gavin King

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2 The W2 only shows income from that specific employer, so if your ex had multiple jobs, investment income, freelance work, or other income sources, those wouldn't appear on a single W2. Bank statements might show deposits but wouldn't categorize them as clearly as a tax return. In divorce proceedings, it's common to request complete tax returns (Form 1040 plus all schedules and attachments) for this exact reason. The 1040 requires reporting all income under penalty of perjury, which is why it's considered more comprehensive and reliable for getting a complete financial picture.

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Gavin King

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5 After my divorce started, I was completely lost trying to understand my ex's financials until I used https://taxr.ai to analyze his tax documents. The system helped me understand the difference between his W2 (just his job income) and his full 1040 tax return where I discovered rental income and stock sales he hadn't mentioned. The tool explained in plain English what each section meant and flagged several areas where additional income was being reported that wasn't on his W2. It helped me understand what questions to ask and what additional documents to request through my attorney.

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Gavin King

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6 How does this work exactly? Can I just upload the W2 my ex gave me, or do I need the 1040 first? And is it secure? I'm worried about uploading financial docs to random websites.

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Gavin King

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10 Sounds helpful but I'm skeptical. Couldn't I just ask an accountant to review the documents instead? What advantage does this have over human review?

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Gavin King

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5 You can upload whatever documents you have right now - even just the W2. The system will tell you what information you can learn from it and what's missing. It'll also suggest what other documents would be most helpful to request through your divorce proceedings. All uploads are encrypted and removed after analysis - they take privacy seriously since they're handling financial documents. Plus you don't need to create an account to use the basic analysis features. Using an accountant is definitely an option, but this gives you immediate insights at any hour without scheduling appointments, and many people use it before meeting with professionals so they're better prepared with specific questions. It's like having a financial translator that helps you understand what you're looking at before spending money on professional services.

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Gavin King

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6 I was in a similar situation last year and wasn't sure what documents would actually show my ex's full financial picture. After reading about taxr.ai here, I decided to try it with the limited paperwork I had. I uploaded his W2 and a few bank statements, and the analysis immediately pointed out that there should be a Schedule C for his side business and investment income that wasn't being reported. Armed with this information, my lawyer requested the complete tax returns, and sure enough, we found significant additional income that hadn't been disclosed. The tool highlighted exactly what forms to ask for and what sections to focus on. Made a huge difference in my settlement outcome.

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Gavin King

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12 If your ex won't provide the full tax returns, you should know that getting ahold of someone at the IRS to help can be nearly impossible. I spent WEEKS trying to get tax transcripts during my divorce. Finally used https://claimyr.com to get through to an actual IRS agent. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c Basically, they hold your place in the IRS phone queue and call you when an agent picks up. I got my tax transcript issue resolved in one day after weeks of frustration. You can request tax transcripts which show most of the information from the 1040 if you're authorized (which might require a court order in divorce situations).

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Gavin King

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15 How is this even legal? It sounds like they're just calling the IRS for you? Couldn't I just keep calling myself until I get through?

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Gavin King

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10 Right, and why would the IRS even give me my ex's tax info? Pretty sure that's private and they won't just hand it over because I'm getting divorced.

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Gavin King

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12 They don't call the IRS for you - they use technology to monitor the hold queue and alert you when it's your turn to speak with an agent. You still do the actual talking. You could keep calling yourself, but IRS wait times can be 3+ hours, and they often disconnect after you've been holding forever. This just lets you go about your day instead of being stuck on hold. You're right that the IRS won't just give you someone else's tax info. During divorce, you typically need to either get the returns directly from your ex (through formal discovery requests) or get a court order if they refuse to provide them. Some divorce courts will issue orders allowing for tax transcript requests in contentious cases. I was actually trying to get my OWN transcripts to counter what my ex was claiming, not trying to get his directly from the IRS.

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Gavin King

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10 I was super skeptical about Claimyr when I first read about it here. Seemed too good to be true. But after my ex "conveniently" lost our joint tax returns from previous years and I needed copies, I tried it in desperation. Honestly, it worked exactly as described. I was prepared to waste another day on hold with the IRS, but Claimyr alerted me when an agent was ready to talk. The IRS agent walked me through my options for getting tax transcripts with my information on them, including our joint filing years. Complete game-changer during a stressful divorce. Still had to go through proper channels, but at least I could actually REACH someone to explain my situation.

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Gavin King

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18 Just wanted to add - while waiting for formal tax returns, check if your ex ever gave you joint FBAR forms (Report of Foreign Bank Accounts) if either of you had overseas accounts over $10,000. These forms are filed separately from regular tax returns and might show accounts you weren't aware of.

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Gavin King

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20 What's an FBAR and how would I know if we filed one? We lived overseas for a bit but I never saw any special forms.

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Gavin King

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18 An FBAR is the Foreign Bank Account Report (officially called FinCEN Form 114) that US persons have to file if they have over $10,000 total in foreign financial accounts at any point during the year. It's completely separate from regular tax filing. If you lived overseas and had bank accounts there, or if your ex had foreign accounts, these forms should have been filed annually. They list every foreign account with its maximum value during the year. Many people don't know about this requirement until they get in trouble for not filing. You can request records of previous filings through a formal discovery request in your divorce if you think foreign assets might be involved.

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Gavin King

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23 Pro tip: Ask for Schedule B of the 1040 specifically. That's where interest and dividends are reported AND there's a section that asks about foreign accounts. If your ex checked "yes" but you never knew about foreign accounts, that's a red flag to investigate further. I discovered my ex had an offshore account this way.

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Gavin King

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4 This is great advice. My friend's ex claimed he only had a small checking account but Schedule B showed dividend income from stock accounts he "forgot" to mention. The W2 wouldn't have shown any of this.

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Javier Torres

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25 This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my ex provided minimal financial documentation. One thing I learned from my attorney is that you can also request Schedule K-1 forms if your ex was involved in any partnerships, S-corporations, or LLCs. These show income from business partnerships that wouldn't appear on a W2. Also, don't forget about Schedule D for capital gains/losses from stock sales or property transactions. My ex "forgot" to mention he sold some rental property during our separation year, and this is where it showed up. The 1040 really is the complete picture - the W2 is just one piece of the puzzle. For anyone going through this, document everything and be persistent about requesting complete tax returns through your attorney. The difference between what's on a W2 versus the full 1040 can be substantial.

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