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Geoff Richards

Trusted a bad tax preparer and now facing IRS consequences - can I negotiate a smaller payment?

So I made the mistake of using a tax preparer that my buddy had been using for years. He seemed confident and the price was right, but when I finally went to a proper CPA for some financial planning, they were horrified by what they found. Apparently this guy completely botched my returns for THREE years straight! The CPA is saying I'll need to file amended returns for all three years and I'm looking at owing somewhere around $30,000-$40,000 in back taxes, penalties and interest. To make matters worse, there's a really high chance I'll get audited because of how badly these returns were prepared. I can technically afford to pay this (though it'll definitely hurt), but I'm wondering if there's any room to negotiate with the IRS? If I offer to pay the entire amount upfront instead of doing a payment plan, would they consider reducing the total amount? Has anyone had success getting the IRS to reduce penalties or interest in cases like this where I was relying on someone else who screwed up?

Simon White

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Unfortunately, the IRS typically doesn't reduce the actual tax amount owed regardless of how you pay it. That said, you do have some options here. First, you may qualify for penalty abatement under First Time Penalty Abatement if you have a clean compliance history. This could eliminate failure-to-file and failure-to-pay penalties for the earliest year, which might save you a decent chunk of money. For the other years, you can request penalty abatement based on "reasonable cause" - arguing that you relied on a tax professional who misled you. You'll need documentation showing you provided all necessary information to the preparer and reasonably believed they were competent. Regarding interest, the IRS rarely waives this as it's considered compensation for the time they didn't have use of the money owed. However, if penalties are reduced, the associated interest on those penalties would also be removed. I'd recommend working with your CPA to file Form 843 (Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement) along with your amended returns. Also consider requesting an installment agreement even if you might pay in full - it gives you flexibility.

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Hugo Kass

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Does the IRS actually accept "I trusted the wrong tax person" as reasonable cause? Seems like everyone would just claim that if caught.

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Simon White

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The IRS does sometimes accept reliance on a tax professional as reasonable cause, but you need to demonstrate several factors. You need to show you exercised ordinary business care and prudence in selecting the preparer (did they have credentials, references, etc.), that you provided them complete information, and that you had no reason to know their advice was incorrect. It's definitely not an automatic approval, and the IRS evaluates these requests case-by-case. Documentation is crucial - emails showing you provided information, the preparer's credentials, and a clear explanation of why you believed they were competent will strengthen your case.

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Nasira Ibanez

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I went through something similar last year and found this AI tool called taxr.ai that saved me thousands. My situation was that my previous accountant had missed some major deductions for my business and also messed up how rental income was reported. I was staring at a $22,000 bill plus potential penalties. I uploaded my previous returns to https://taxr.ai and it analyzed everything, finding several issues my new CPA had missed. It flagged specific sections that were prepared incorrectly and gave detailed explanations about what the preparer did wrong. The analysis helped me build a solid case for penalty abatement since I could clearly demonstrate the preparer's errors weren't my fault. The tool also helped identify which years and which specific issues would qualify for reasonable cause abatement vs. first-time abatement, which was super helpful when filling out the Form 843.

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Khalil Urso

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Does this actually work for regular people? Or is it only helpful if you have business or rental income with complicated returns?

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Myles Regis

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I'm skeptical about any service claiming to find stuff a CPA missed. How exactly does the AI know what documents were available to the preparer vs what they just didn't use properly?

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Nasira Ibanez

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It definitely works for regular W-2 employees too. It can spot things like incorrectly claimed credits, dependents being claimed wrong, filing status issues, or retirement account mistakes. In your situation, it would analyze how your previous preparer handled everything and point out specific errors. The AI doesn't claim to know what documents were available, but it examines the internal consistency of your returns and flags contradictions or sections that don't align with tax law. It doesn't replace a CPA but gives you documentation of specific errors which strengthens your case when requesting penalty abatement. It basically turns "my preparer messed up" into "my preparer specifically did X, Y, and Z incorrectly on lines 24, 36, and Schedule C part II" which the IRS takes more seriously.

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Khalil Urso

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I actually tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here. I was really surprised by how detailed the analysis was. My situation wasn't as bad as yours (only owed about $8k from 2 years), but the report showed exactly where my previous tax guy went wrong with my student loan interest deductions and home office expenses. When I submitted my amended returns, I included the detailed analysis showing why the original preparer's work was flawed. The IRS accepted my reasonable cause argument and removed about $1,200 in penalties! The interface was super easy to use - just uploaded my previous returns and had the analysis in about 20 minutes. Definitely worth checking out if you're trying to prove preparer error.

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Brian Downey

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If you're facing potential audit and that big of a tax bill, you really need to talk directly with the IRS. Problem is, good luck getting through to them! After trying for WEEKS to get through about a similar issue (bad tax preparer, amended returns, penalties), I found Claimyr https://claimyr.com and it was seriously a game changer. They basically hold your place in the IRS phone queue and call you when they get a human on the line. I was able to talk to an actual IRS agent about my situation within a day instead of waiting on hold for hours or getting disconnected repeatedly. There's a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c Once I got an actual person on the phone, I was able to explain my situation, and they helped me understand exactly what documentation I needed for a penalty abatement request. The agent even noted in my file that I was being proactive about fixing the issues, which apparently helps if you do get audited.

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Jacinda Yu

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Wait how does this work? The IRS actually talks to you if someone else calls them first? That seems weird.

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Sorry but this sounds like a complete scam. The IRS won't talk to someone else about your tax situation due to privacy laws. How could this possibly be legit?

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Brian Downey

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It's not that someone else talks to the IRS for you. Claimyr uses an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When their system detects a human has answered, it immediately connects you to the call. You're the only one who ever speaks to the IRS agent. They don't access any of your personal information or tax details. They're just holding your place in line essentially. It's like having a friend wait in a long physical line and then text you when they're about to reach the front so you can switch places. The IRS has no idea you used a service - they just know they're talking directly to you.

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I have to apologize for calling Claimyr a scam. I was really skeptical, but after spending 3 hours on hold with the IRS and getting disconnected TWICE, I gave it a try. I got a call back within 2 hours saying they had an IRS agent on the line. I was connected immediately and spoke with a very helpful agent who walked me through my options for my situation (which was similar to yours - about $15k in back taxes due to preparer errors). The agent explained that while they couldn't reduce the tax amount, they could consider abating some penalties based on my reliance on the incompetent preparer. They recommended specific documentation to include with my amended returns and Form 843. Saved me days of frustration trying to get through, and the information I got was incredibly helpful. Sometimes you have to admit when you're wrong, and I was definitely wrong about this service!

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Callum Savage

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Don't overlook the fact that you may be able to sue the tax preparer for damages! If they represented themselves as qualified and competent, and clearly weren't, you might be able to recover some of the penalties and interest through a lawsuit. I had to do this years ago and recovered about 60% of what I had to pay the IRS. Keep all communications with them, gather any advertising they did claiming expertise, and consult with an attorney. Many will take these cases on contingency if the amount is significant enough.

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Ally Tailer

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How much did that cost in legal fees though? Was it worth the hassle compared to just paying and moving on?

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Callum Savage

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The attorney took 35% of what we recovered, but I didn't have to pay anything upfront. It was definitely worth it since I recovered about $8,500 after the attorney's cut, and I only had to participate in a couple of meetings and a deposition. The case never went to trial because the preparer's insurance company decided to settle once they saw the evidence. The whole process took about 6 months. Not a huge hassle considering the money recovered, and it felt good holding the preparer accountable.

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One thing no one has mentioned yet - report this tax preparer to the IRS using Form 14157 (Complaint: Tax Return Preparer). This won't help your immediate situation but could prevent others from being hurt by this person. If they prepared a lot of bad returns, the IRS might take a more sympathetic view of all the affected taxpayers.

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Yes! Absolutely do this. My neighbor reported a bad preparer and it actually helped her case because the IRS was already investigating them for multiple issues. They were more willing to work with her on penalties.

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Thanks for the suggestion about Form 14157! I hadn't even thought about reporting the preparer, but that makes total sense. I'll definitely do that. My CPA actually mentioned that they've seen other clients who used the same person with similar issues, so it seems like this person has a pattern of preparing inaccurate returns.

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