Need Advice - I Owe $193,000 to the IRS from Back Taxes
I've been doing a lot of soul-searching lately and finally ready to face what I've been avoiding for years. Not proud of this situation at all. Back in 2019, my business was doing really well and I was bringing in more money than I'd ever seen before. I did make some estimated tax payments, but then 2020 hit with the pandemic and everything fell apart. My income tanked almost overnight. Around the same time, I had a major health crisis that put me in the hospital for a serious operation (10+ hours on the table) and left me with a brutal recovery period. In the chaos of it all, I managed to pay my state taxes but severely underpaid my federal taxes. The original amount was around $167k that I owed the IRS. I've basically been pretending this wasn't happening for years, which was obviously a terrible idea. Just got a certified letter today saying they're planning to levy $193k now with all the penalties and interest added on. My financial situation is much better these days. I have enough assets where I could technically pay it all, but it would wipe out a significant portion of what I've worked to build back up. (Looking back, I should never have counted that unpaid tax money as part of my net worth anyway.) I'm trying to figure out my next steps: - Should I just call the IRS directly and try to set up a payment plan? - Is hiring a tax attorney worth the expense? - I tried the OIC (Offer in Compromise) pre-qualification on the IRS website and definitely don't qualify - Not sure if there's any way to negotiate the amount down, especially the $8k penalty portion I already feel like the world's biggest idiot for letting this happen, so please go easy on the judgment. It was a crazy time in my life, but I know I need to fix this now.
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Fatima Al-Hashemi
Don't beat yourself up too much about this. The important thing is that you're facing it now. Here's what you should know: First, call the IRS directly at 800-829-1040 to discuss your options. They actually have several payment plans available. The most basic is an installment agreement that can spread payments out over several years. Since your balance is over $50,000, you'll likely need to provide some financial information. Given the amount you owe, I'd recommend at least consulting with a tax attorney or CPA who specializes in IRS tax resolution. They may be able to help with penalty abatement - especially considering your health situation in 2020. The IRS has "reasonable cause" provisions that sometimes allow penalties to be removed if you can demonstrate circumstances beyond your control prevented compliance. For the $8k penalty specifically, that's definitely worth fighting. The attorney fees might be worth it if they can get that removed plus potentially negotiate some of the interest. They might also help structure the payment plan in the most favorable way possible. A professional can also ensure the IRS follows proper procedures and doesn't levy assets improperly. The peace of mind might be worth the cost.
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Dylan Mitchell
•How likely is it that they could actually get the penalties removed? I've always heard the IRS is pretty strict about this stuff, especially when it's such a large amount. And what about the interest - can that ever be negotiated down?
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Fatima Al-Hashemi
•The likelihood of getting penalties completely removed depends on the specific circumstances. With documented medical hardship like you experienced, you have a reasonable case for penalty abatement. The IRS recognizes serious illness as potential "reasonable cause" for failure to pay. It's not guaranteed, but definitely worth pursuing with proper documentation from your medical providers. Regarding interest, that's much harder to negotiate down. The IRS is generally required by law to charge interest on unpaid taxes, and it's rarely abated. However, if you can get the penalties removed, that means less interest overall since you won't be paying interest on the penalties. A tax resolution professional might also find other strategies to minimize the total amount due.
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Sofia Martinez
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Dmitry Volkov
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Ava Thompson
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Sofia Martinez
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Ava Thompson
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CyberSiren
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Miguel Alvarez
•How does this actually work though? Does the IRS allow this kind of third-party connection? Seems like there would be verification issues or something.
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Zainab Yusuf
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CyberSiren
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Zainab Yusuf
I need to publicly eat my words about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway for my own tax situation (was dealing with an incorrect CP2000 notice). I was 100% wrong. After weeks of failing to get through to the IRS myself, they got me connected to an agent in less than 2 hours. The agent was able to put my account on hold while we resolved the documentation issues, which prevented automatic collections from starting. For someone dealing with $193k in tax debt like the OP, being able to actually speak with the right IRS department quickly could make a huge difference. I just didn't want someone reading my skeptical comment and missing out on a service that genuinely works when you need to reach the IRS quickly.
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Connor O'Reilly
You might want to look into a first-time penalty abatement (FTA) request if you have a clean compliance history for the three years before 2019. The IRS can sometimes waive penalties for a first offense, even without "reasonable cause." But with your medical situation, you definitely have a reasonable cause argument too. Just make sure you keep making estimated tax payments for your current year while dealing with this past debt. The IRS looks at current compliance when considering payment arrangements.
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NeonNomad
•Thanks for mentioning the first-time penalty abatement option - I had no idea that existed. My tax history before this was pretty clean since I was an employee with standard W-2 income. Does the size of the penalty affect whether they'll approve the FTA? And how do I actually request it - is there a specific form or do I need to call?
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Connor O'Reilly
•The size of the penalty doesn't technically affect FTA eligibility. The IRS looks at your compliance history, not the dollar amount. You can request it by calling the IRS directly, writing a letter, or having your tax professional include it with other negotiations. There's no specific form, but you need to explicitly ask for "first-time penalty abatement" and explain that you have a clean compliance record for the three prior years. If you call, be prepared for the agent to possibly deny it initially. Many frontline agents aren't fully trained on FTA policies. You might need to escalate to a manager or submit the request in writing. Your medical circumstances actually give you two separate arguments for penalty removal - both FTA and reasonable cause, which strengthens your position considerably.
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Yara Khoury
Whatever you do, DON'T ignore the levy notice. That's the point where the IRS can start taking your stuff without further notice. They can hit bank accounts, garnish wages, etc. I made that mistake and had my checking account completely emptied one morning without warning. Call the IRS right away and at minimum get a "Currently Not Collectible" status while you figure out your next steps. That'll pause collection actions.
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Keisha Taylor
•Totally agree! My cousin ignored IRS notices and they took his car and froze all his accounts. It was a nightmare trying to get basic living expenses after that. The IRS doesn't mess around once they start the levy process.
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