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Third party designee shown as sole mbr on official EIN letter - possible liability issue?

Hey tax folks, I'm in a bit of a confusing situation that I need some guidance on. A few weeks back, I helped my business partner apply for an EIN for his single-member LLC. Since he's not a US citizen and doesn't have an SSN, I used my SSN as the third-party designee when completing the online application. The official EIN letter arrived yesterday, and I noticed something concerning - my name appears right under the company name followed by "sole mbr". This has me worried that I might somehow be listed as the responsible party rather than my partner who actually owns the LLC. When I was filling out the application online, it was clearly indicated that I was applying "on behalf of" the actual business owner. I'm just trying to make sure that I haven't accidentally put myself on the hook for any tax liabilities or other responsibilities that should belong to the actual business owner. Has anyone dealt with this situation before or know what this means exactly? Is this just how the IRS formats these letters or should I be concerned?

This is actually a common point of confusion with EIN letters. When you apply as a third-party designee, you're essentially just the person completing the paperwork, not the responsible party for tax purposes. The "sole mbr" designation is referring to the LLC's structure (single-member LLC), not to you personally. However, the fact that your name appears where it does is something to address. What likely happened is that during the application process, your information as the third-party designee may have been entered in a field intended for the responsible party. The IRS Form SS-4 (or the online equivalent) has separate sections for the responsible party and the third-party designee. I would recommend calling the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933 to clarify and potentially correct the responsible party information. They can verify who is actually listed as the responsible party in their system, which might be different from how the letter is formatted.

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Thanks for this explanation! Quick question - if OP's friend is a foreign national without an SSN, what should they have used instead? I thought you needed an SSN or EIN to apply for another EIN. Also, how difficult is it to change the responsible party after the fact if it turns out to be incorrect?

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Foreign nationals without an SSN should use an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) when applying for an EIN as the responsible party. If they don't have an ITIN, they should apply for one using Form W-7. The IRS has processes in place specifically for foreign owners of US businesses. Changing the responsible party after the fact is relatively straightforward but needs to be done correctly. The current responsible party needs to file Form 8822-B (Change of Address or Responsible Party) with the IRS. This form must be signed by someone who has authority to sign on behalf of the business entity. The process typically takes a few weeks to process.

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One thing to note - there's a difference between being listed as a third-party designee and being listed as the responsible party. The third-party designee is just authorized to speak with the IRS about the application, but the responsible party is the person who controls, manages, or directs the entity and the disposition of its funds and assets. Check Box 3 on the SS-4 form (or the online equivalent) - that's where the responsible party info should be. If your name is there instead of your friend's, you'll definitely want to file Form 8822-B to correct it. This is especially important because the responsible party is liable for the entity's tax compliance.

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So based on what you're saying, I should definitely be concerned about my name appearing with "sole mbr" on the letter? Does this suggest I'm actually listed as the responsible party in their system?

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Yes, you should be concerned. The "sole mbr" designation next to your name strongly suggests you've been incorrectly recorded as the single member (owner) of the LLC in the IRS system, not just as the third-party designee who helped with paperwork. This discrepancy indicates you're likely listed as the responsible party, which means the IRS currently considers you responsible for the entity's tax obligations. I'd recommend filing Form 8822-B to correct this immediately. Until it's fixed, you could potentially be held liable for any tax issues related to this business, even though you're not the actual owner.

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I had a similar issue last year with my cousin's LLC. Make sure to keep a paper trail of everything while you're sorting this out. When we called the IRS, we got different answers from different representatives, which made things even more confusing.

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What kind of documentation did you end up needing to prove who the actual LLC owner was? I'm helping my partner with something similar and want to be prepared.

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This is definitely something you need to address quickly. I went through something very similar when I helped my brother-in-law apply for an EIN for his consulting LLC. The same thing happened - my name appeared on the official letter in a way that suggested I was the business owner rather than just the person who helped with the paperwork. What I learned is that the IRS online system can be confusing about where to enter third-party designee information versus responsible party information. In many cases, people accidentally enter the third-party designee's SSN in the responsible party field, which is exactly what it sounds like happened to you. The good news is this is fixable, but you'll want to act fast. I ended up having to file Form 8822-B to change the responsible party information back to my brother-in-law. The process took about 6 weeks, but during that time I was technically on the hook for any tax issues related to his business. I'd also recommend getting a copy of the actual SS-4 application that was submitted to see exactly what information was entered where. You can request this from the IRS, and it will show you definitively whether you were listed as the responsible party or if it's just a formatting issue with the letter.

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