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Has anyone had success requesting abatement online through the IRS account portal rather than mailing in Form 843? I thought I saw something about being able to do it electronically now but can't find clear instructions.

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I tried the online method back in January and it only worked for penalty abatement, not interest. The system automatically approved my penalty abatement request (since I qualified for First Time Abatement), but for interest I still had to submit the paper Form 843.

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Adrian Hughes

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Based on your situation, you have an excellent case for both penalty and interest abatement. Since you maintained perfect compliance for years while overseas and the IRS clearly had your correct address on your filed returns, this is a textbook example of IRS error causing unnecessary penalties and interest. Here's what I'd recommend doing immediately: 1. **Get your account transcripts** - Download transcripts showing your filed returns with the correct address vs. the notices with the wrong address. This is your smoking gun evidence. 2. **File Form 843** - Request both penalty AND interest abatement. Be very specific about the interest abatement request citing IRC 6404(e) and explain how the IRS error in using the wrong address caused unreasonable delay. 3. **Document everything** - Include copies of your returns showing correct address, copies of notices showing wrong address, and evidence of your clean compliance history. The fact that you paid immediately upon discovering the issue actually strengthens your case - it shows good faith and that you're not trying to avoid payment, just seeking relief from charges that shouldn't have accrued. Don't be surprised if the penalty abatement gets approved quickly (you clearly qualify for First Time Penalty Abatement) but the interest takes longer. Interest abatement has a higher bar but your address documentation should meet the "unreasonable IRS error" standard.

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Javier Garcia

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This is exactly the roadmap I needed - thank you so much! I just downloaded my account transcripts and you're absolutely right, the discrepancy between my filed returns and their notices is crystal clear. My 2023 return shows my correct overseas address, but all their notices went to some garbled version of it. One quick question - when you mention citing IRC 6404(e) on Form 843, should I include the actual text of that section or just reference it? I want to make sure I'm being thorough but not overdoing it. Also really appreciate the point about paying first actually helping my case. I was worried I'd shot myself in the foot by not requesting abatement before paying, but it sounds like it might actually work in my favor.

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Andre Dupont

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Quickbooks Self-Employed has been a lifesaver for me with this exact problem. It lets you swipe left/right to categorize transactions as business or personal, and you can split transactions too if needed. Way easier than sorting through everything manually at tax time.

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QuantumQuasar

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Does it automatically pull in all your accounts? I use multiple credit cards and want something that consolidates everything.

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Andre Dupont

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Yes, it connects to basically all financial institutions and imports transactions automatically. I have it connected to three personal credit cards, my checking account, and my business account. You just need to go through and categorize which charges are business vs personal. Takes me about 10 minutes a week to stay on top of it all.

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Caleb Stark

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I went through this exact same situation with my consulting LLC last year! What really helped me was setting up a formal reimbursement system retroactively. I created expense reports for all the personal funds I'd used for business expenses, then had my LLC "reimburse" me by transferring money from the business account to my personal account. The key is maintaining that paper trail showing these were legitimate business expenses that you temporarily covered. I used a simple Excel template to document each expense with date, amount, vendor, business purpose, and which personal account I used. Then I'd do monthly reimbursements to myself. Your accountant will definitely appreciate that you've been tracking everything - that's honestly the hardest part. The fact that you have receipts and documentation puts you way ahead of most small business owners. Just make sure going forward you try to use business accounts when possible, but don't stress too much about the occasional personal payment as long as you document it properly.

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Chiming in as someone who also had a dormant LLC - don't forget about tax software options. I used TaxSlayer last year and it guided me through what I needed for my zero-activity LLC completely. Most of the major tax software options (TurboTax, H&R Block, etc.) have sections specifically for handling business returns, even with no income or expenses.

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Chris King

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Did TaxSlayer handle state filings too? I used TurboTax last year and it didn't prompt me for my state's LLC annual report which was separate from the tax filing.

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QuantumQuest

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I went through this exact same situation with my LLC last year! The short answer is yes, you'll likely need to file something even with zero activity. Since you mentioned it's been completely dormant, you'll probably need to file a Schedule C (Form 1040) showing all zeros - this is required for single-member LLCs even when there's no business activity. The key thing to remember is that the IRS wants to see that you're reporting your business status, even if that status is "no activity." It's basically confirming that you didn't have unreported income rather than just ignoring the business entirely. Also, don't overlook your state requirements! Many states have annual filing fees or franchise taxes that are due regardless of business activity. Since you're planning to actually start using the LLC now, you'll want to make sure you're in good standing at both the federal and state level before you begin operations. I'd recommend checking with your state's Secretary of State website for any annual report requirements and deadlines - these are often separate from tax filings and can have penalties if missed.

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Hannah Flores

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar boat - formed an LLC early last year but life got in the way and nothing happened with it. I've been stressed about what I need to file. Quick question though - when you say "Schedule C showing all zeros," do I literally just put zeros in all the income and expense fields? And does it matter that I never actually conducted any business meetings or had any business-related activities at all? I'm worried the IRS might think it's suspicious to claim a business with absolutely no activity whatsoever.

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Maya Diaz

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This situation is unfortunately more common than you'd think in the service industry. Your concerns are absolutely valid - having all these digital payments flow through your personal accounts does create potential tax complications. A few key points to consider: **Immediate documentation needs:** - Keep detailed records of every transaction (date, amount, source, distribution breakdown) - Take screenshots of all Venmo/Cash App transactions showing both incoming payments and outgoing distributions - Get written confirmation from your employer that you're acting as their agent for tip collection **Tax reporting considerations:** Since you'll likely receive 1099-K forms from Venmo/Cash App if you exceed their reporting thresholds, you'll need to report this income but also document the offsetting distributions. This isn't necessarily a Schedule C situation since you're a W-2 employee - you may need to report on "Other Income" with proper documentation of the pass-through nature. **Long-term solution:** Really push your employer to set up proper business accounts for digital tip collection. This system puts unnecessary tax complexity on you as an employee when it should be handled at the business level. The key is having bulletproof documentation showing you're acting as an intermediary, not earning all this income personally. Without proper records, the IRS will assume it's all your taxable income.

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Sean Matthews

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This is excellent comprehensive advice! I'm dealing with something similar at a coffee shop where I handle all our digital tips through my personal Venmo. One thing I've learned the hard way - make sure you're also keeping records of the cash tips that get mixed in with the digital ones. When you're distributing everything together, you need to show the full picture of how much total money you handled versus what you actually kept. Also, has anyone dealt with the quarterly estimated tax payments on this? Since these large amounts might show up as "income" on your 1099-K, you could end up owing penalties if you don't account for it properly throughout the year. I'm wondering if I should be making estimated payments on the gross amount and then claiming it back, or if there's a better way to handle it. The documentation suggestion about getting witness info is really smart too - I never thought about having the other employees as potential witnesses to prove the money actually went to them.

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Zoe Stavros

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The quarterly estimated tax situation you mentioned is actually a really important point that most people overlook! Since Venmo/Cash App will report the gross amount you received on Form 1099-K, the IRS computer systems will expect to see that income reported on your tax return. Here's what I'd recommend for estimated payments: Don't make estimated payments on the full gross amount - that would be overpaying since most of that money isn't actually your income. Instead, calculate your estimated payments based on your actual taxable income (your portion of tips plus W-2 wages). The key is having that rock-solid documentation showing the pass-through nature of the funds. When you file your annual return, you'll report the full 1099-K amount but then show the offsetting distributions with proper documentation. This prevents the IRS computers from thinking you under-reported income. One tip that helped me: I started sending myself a monthly email summary with screenshots of all the tip distributions and running totals. It creates a timestamped record that's hard to dispute later. Also consider having your coworkers sign a simple log when they receive their tip shares - just date, amount, and signature. It's extra documentation that proves you're not keeping all that money. The witness angle is brilliant too - if you ever face an audit, having other employees who can testify they received money from you is incredibly valuable evidence that you were acting as a conduit, not earning it all personally.

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Sofia Price

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Has anyone used one of those tax relief companies that advertise on the radio for an OIC? They claim they can settle for "pennies on the dollar" but I'm wondering if they're worth the fees they charge.

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Alice Coleman

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STAY AWAY from those companies! I made that mistake and paid $3,500 upfront to a "tax relief" firm. They did absolutely nothing I couldn't have done myself and actually caused delays by submitting incomplete paperwork. Many of these places just take your money and do the bare minimum.

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I'm currently in the middle of my OIC process (submitted about 4 months ago) and wanted to share what I've learned so far since you're just getting started. The biggest thing that's helped me is staying incredibly organized with a dedicated filing system for every single document. I created separate folders for initial application materials, correspondence with the IRS, financial documentation, and backup copies of everything. This has been a lifesaver when they've requested additional info. One thing I wish I'd known upfront - the IRS can take 6-24 months to process your offer, and during that time you MUST stay current on all new tax obligations. If you fall behind on estimated payments or filing requirements while your OIC is pending, they'll automatically reject your offer. I almost learned this the hard way. Also, don't let the anxiety get to you too much. Yes, it's intimidating dealing with the IRS directly, but if you're thorough with your documentation and honest about your financial situation, the process is more straightforward than it seems. The IRS agents I've spoken with have actually been professional and helpful when I've had questions. Good luck with your application! Feel free to ask if you have specific questions about the forms - I'm still fresh on all the details.

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