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Danielle Campbell

What is a guaranteed payment in a partnership and why would equal partners' K1's show different amounts?

Hey all, I'm in a bit of a sticky situation with my partnership taxes this year. My business partner and I started a small software development firm last year and we're 50/50 owners according to our operating agreement. We each contributed the same amount of cash to get things going ($65,000 each). When our accountant prepared our tax returns, I noticed our K-1 forms have different amounts even though we're equal partners. My partner's form shows about $28,500 listed as "guaranteed payments" while mine doesn't have any. Our overall income allocation seems close to equal, but I'm confused about these guaranteed payments and why they'd only show up on one partner's form. Can someone explain what guaranteed payments actually are and why equal partners would have different K-1 forms? I asked our accountant but her explanation just left me more confused. I'm worried my partner is getting some benefit I'm not aware of.

Rhett Bowman

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Guaranteed payments are essentially a way for partnerships to pay partners for services or capital, regardless of the partnership's income. Think of them kind of like a salary for partners, except they're not exactly the same as wages. If your partner's K-1 shows $28,500 in guaranteed payments and yours doesn't, it typically means your partner was paid that amount for services or use of capital, separate from the profit distribution. A common scenario is when one partner works full-time in the business while the other is more passive. Even though you have equal ownership, your operating agreement might specify different compensation structures. These payments are deductible by the partnership (reducing overall partnership income) but are guaranteed to be paid regardless of profitability. They're reported on the receiving partner's K-1 in Box 4 and are subject to self-employment tax.

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Thanks for explaining! So if we're both putting in equal hours (about 40-45 per week), should we both be getting guaranteed payments? Our operating agreement doesn't specifically mention anything about different compensation structures.

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Rhett Bowman

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If you're both putting in equal hours, then having guaranteed payments for only one partner does seem unusual. Typically, partners with similar work contributions would have similar compensation structures. Your operating agreement might not explicitly mention guaranteed payments, but there could be other provisions about partner compensation or management responsibilities that your accountant interpreted this way. I suggest reviewing the meeting minutes from when you established compensation, as sometimes these decisions are documented there rather than in the operating agreement.

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I'm a small business attorney, and I see guaranteed payment confusion all the time with my clients. Here's a simple explanation: Guaranteed payments are amounts paid to partners regardless of partnership income. They're similar to a salary but for partners. These payments are: 1) Deductible by the partnership 2) Ordinary income to the receiving partner 3) Subject to self-employment tax If you're both equal owners working equal hours but only one partner is receiving guaranteed payments, you should look at cash withdrawals during the year. Often one partner takes regular withdrawals (classified as guaranteed payments) while the other leaves money in the business (taken as distributions). This classification matters because guaranteed payments are subject to self-employment tax while certain distributions might not be, depending on your situation.

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This makes so much sense now. My partner has been taking bi-weekly payments of $1,100 to cover his mortgage while I've been leaving most profits in the business and taking quarterly distributions. I bet that's why our K-1s look different. Should we change how we're handling this for 2025?

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You've identified exactly what's happening. Those regular bi-weekly payments to your partner are being classified as guaranteed payments, which explains the difference in your K-1s. For 2025, you have options depending on your goals. If you want equal tax treatment, you could both take identical guaranteed payments or both take only distributions. However, there can be advantages to the current arrangement depending on your individual tax situations. Guaranteed payments ensure regular income for your partner but come with self-employment tax. Your method of taking quarterly distributions might result in lower self-employment tax but less predictable income. I'd recommend consulting with your accountant about which approach optimizes both partners' overall tax situation based on your personal circumstances.

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Ellie Perry

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Wait, I'm confused about something basic here... if guaranteed payments are basically like salary for partners, why wouldn't both partners get them equally if they're putting in equal work? Isn't that unfair to the partner not getting the guaranteed payments?

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Landon Morgan

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It's not necessarily unfair - it's just different ways of taking money out of the business. Partner A might prefer regular guaranteed payments (like a salary) while Partner B might prefer taking distributions only. The total compensation can still be equal at the end of the year, just structured differently. Each approach has different tax implications though. Guaranteed payments always face self-employment tax (15.3%), while certain distributions might avoid that depending on the partnership structure. So sometimes the "salary" partner ends up paying more in taxes for the same amount of money.

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Teresa Boyd

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Another thing to consider - sometimes guaranteed payments are used when one partner contributes specialized assets to the partnership. For example, if your partner contributed intellectual property, equipment, or client relationships in addition to the cash contribution, the guaranteed payment might be compensating them for that. Check your partnership formation docs carefully. Even if you both contributed the same cash amount, there might be other contributions being compensated through these guaranteed payments.

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