Tax optimization strategies for side hustles, LLCs and exploring wealthy tax reduction methods
I've been diving deep into research about how to maximize my tax efficiency and basically use the same strategies that wealthy people do to keep more of their money. *Kind of like how I know I can take my car to Jiffy Lube, but I'd rather understand how to change my own oil too.* Here's our current setup: * Married filing jointly with standard deduction (we use TurboTax) * Both have regular W-2 jobs, claiming 0 allowances * Wife works remotely, I'm in a hybrid arrangement * Already maxing our 401k accounts and HSA contributions * Putting in the full $8k each for Roth IRAs through backdoor conversion * Have a brokerage account with various ETFs, index funds and some individual stocks * Have a mortgage on our home (no PMI thankfully) I could really use some expert guidance on a few things: 1. What strategies can we implement to reduce our tax burden legally? Open to anything - changing filing status, switching to itemized deductions (home office, mortgage interest, internet expenses), or any insider tips on how the wealthy optimize their taxes. 2. If I launch a side hustle (thinking about SaaS products, digital goods, design services, maybe real estate eventually), should I form an LLC first? Would Wyoming be a good state for this? Should it be taxed as a C-Corp or S-Corp? Is it worth exploring the Augusta Rule? Should I employ my spouse? Is there a completely different business structure that would be better? 3. How would things change tax-wise if we got work visas and relocated to Ireland in the EU? Really appreciate any wisdom on this tax optimization journey. Thanks in advance!
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Mia Green
Hey there! I'm a tax enthusiast (not professional) who's been down this same road. Let me share what I've learned about optimizing taxes: For your current situation, you're already doing some great things by maxing out tax-advantaged accounts. Consider these additional steps: For reducing your tax burden, track all potential home office expenses since your wife is remote. The home office deduction can be significant if you use the "actual expenses" method rather than the simplified option. But remember, this only works for self-employment income, not for W-2 employees working from home. For the side hustle question - yes, forming an LLC can be beneficial, but the tax treatment depends on your goals. An LLC taxed as an S-Corp can save on self-employment taxes once you're making enough profit (usually $40-50K+) to justify paying yourself a reasonable salary plus distributions. Wyoming is popular for no state income tax, but consider your state's "foreign LLC" requirements which might negate some benefits. Regarding the EU move, the US taxes global income, but the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion could exempt up to about $120,000 per person (for 2025) from US taxes if you qualify. You'd still face Irish taxes and will need to file in both countries.
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Emma Bianchi
•Thanks for this info! For the S-Corp route, at what income level does it actually make sense? I've heard mixed things about whether it's worth the extra paperwork and costs if you're only making like $30k from your side hustle. Also, do you know if there are any specific deductions I should be tracking if I start doing SaaS or digital products?
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Mia Green
•The S-Corp typically makes financial sense when you're consistently earning $40-50K+ from your business annually. Below that threshold, the costs of payroll, extra tax filings, and potential accounting fees (around $1,200-2,500/year) often outweigh the self-employment tax savings. For SaaS or digital products, definitely track software development costs, hosting fees, subscription services for tools, marketing expenses, and any contractor payments. These are all deductible business expenses. Also consider Section 179 for immediate deduction of certain equipment purchases rather than depreciating them over time, and look into the Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A) which could give you a 20% deduction on your business income.
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Lucas Kowalski
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Olivia Martinez
•Does it actually give personalized advice? I'm skeptical of these AI tools because they seem to just regurgitate general information you could find anywhere. How does it handle complex situations like rental properties or international income?
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Charlie Yang
•I'm curious how the tool works with specific state tax scenarios? I'm in California which seems to have different rules for everything. Also, does it help with the actual filing process or just the planning stage?
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Lucas Kowalski
•It definitely provides personalized analysis based on your specific numbers and situation. It's not just generic information - it runs calculations comparing different scenarios (like LLC vs S-Corp) using your actual income projections and expenses to show tax implications over time. For state-specific scenarios, it does factor in your state's tax rules when making recommendations. California does have unique tax considerations, and the tool addresses those differences - like how California charges an $800 minimum franchise tax on LLCs regardless of profit, which can be a deal-breaker for very small businesses in that state. The tool focuses on the planning and strategy aspects rather than replacing your tax filing software. It helps you make informed decisions about business structure, deduction strategies, and retirement plans, then you'd implement those strategies when filing with your regular tax software or accountant.
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Charlie Yang
I was skeptical at first, but I tried taxr.ai last month when setting up my e-commerce side business. The difference it made was incredible! I was about to set up an LLC taxed as an S-Corp right away based on advice from some YouTube "tax guru," but the analysis showed me this would actually COST me money for the first 2-3 years based on my expected profit levels. It walked me through exactly how to structure things as a sole proprietor initially, then transition to an S-Corp once I hit the $60k profit threshold. The retirement planning section was eye-opening too - showed how a Solo 401k would be way better for my situation than the SEP IRA I was considering. Definitely worth checking out if you're serious about optimizing your tax situation for your side hustle!
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Grace Patel
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ApolloJackson
•Does this actually work? I've called the IRS international division 11 times in the past month and never got through. How long did it take for them to get someone, and did you have to pay just to be on hold?
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Isabella Russo
•Sounds like a scam to me. Why would I pay someone else to call the IRS when I can do that myself for free? And even if you get through, why would an IRS agent give better info than a tax professional who specializes in expat taxes?
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Grace Patel
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Isabella Russo
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Rajiv Kumar
For your side hustle, I'd recommend starting as a sole proprietor until you have consistent income above $35-40K. The extra paperwork and fees for an LLC taxed as an S-Corp doesn't make financial sense below that threshold. When you do form an LLC, don't get too caught up in the Wyoming/Nevada/Delaware hype. If you're physically operating in another state, you'll likely need to register as a foreign LLC there anyway and be subject to that state's rules. Often better to form in your home state to avoid duplicate fees. One strategy people overlook: Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A). It can give you a 20% deduction on your business income if you qualify. Big tax saver!
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Sophia Rodriguez
•Thanks for the practical advice! With the QBI deduction, are there income phaseouts I should be aware of? My wife and I have a combined W-2 income around $220k before any side hustle income.
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Rajiv Kumar
•Yes, there are phaseouts for the QBI deduction. For 2025, the phaseout begins at $364,200 for married filing jointly and completely phases out at $464,200. Since your combined income is $220k, you're safely below the threshold even with additional side hustle income. However, once your total taxable income approaches that phaseout range, you may want to increase retirement contributions or look into other strategies to keep below the threshold. Also, certain service businesses (like consulting) have stricter income limitations for QBI, so the type of side hustle matters. If your business isn't in a "specified service trade or business" category, you'll have more flexibility with the QBI deduction even at higher income levels.
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Aria Washington
Have you considered a Donor Advised Fund (DAF) as part of your tax strategy? If you're charitably inclined at all, it can be a huge tax advantage. We bunch several years of charitable contributions into a single tax year to exceed the standard deduction threshold, itemize that year, then take standard deduction in subsequent years. Also for the side hustle, look into whether your business could sponsor a Solo 401k. The contribution limits are WAY higher than a SEP IRA, especially if you're already maxing W-2 employer 401ks.
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Liam O'Reilly
•This DAF strategy sounds interesting! How much would someone typically need to contribute to make the "bunching" approach worthwhile? And are there minimum contribution requirements to open a DAF?
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