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Sean Kelly

Tax implications for real estate improvements when converting rental units to personal use

Hey tax gurus, I've got a situation I could use some guidance on before meeting with my accountant and attorney. My family is about to take over an LLC that owns an apartment complex currently used as long-term rentals. We're planning some major renovations - upgrading plumbing, replacing floors and windows, installing new HVAC systems, and rewiring. The catch is that we're thinking about converting some units into our personal living space for the next 15-20 years, while continuing to rent out the remaining units as short-term rentals. Some of the improvements will be directly connected to units that will continue generating rental income, while other areas (like an office space, storage for landscaping equipment, and a workshop) will support the business but be part of our personal living area. My questions are: How do we handle the tax deductions for these improvements? Can we depreciate them over multiple years? And does the potential conversion of some units to personal use make any of these improvements non-deductible? Any insights would be super helpful before I sit down with the professionals!

Zara Mirza

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The tax treatment for your situation gets a bit complicated because you're mixing business use and personal use. Here's how to think about it: For improvements to units that will remain as rentals, those costs can be depreciated over their useful life (typically 27.5 years for residential rental property improvements). These are straightforward business expenses. For improvements to areas that will be converted to personal use, it depends on timing. If you make improvements while the units are still used for business, you can start depreciating them. However, once you convert to personal use, you can't continue claiming depreciation on that portion. For shared improvements (like a new roof or building-wide HVAC system), you'll need to allocate the costs based on square footage or number of units between business and personal use. Only the business portion is depreciable. The office, equipment storage, and workshop areas might qualify for home office deductions if they're used exclusively for managing the rental business, even if they're part of your personal living space.

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Luca Russo

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Thanks for the explanation! So if we do the improvements all at once before moving in, can we start depreciating everything and then just stop the depreciation on our personal units once we convert them? Or would we need to recapture some of the depreciation we already took when we convert?

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Zara Mirza

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You can start depreciating everything as business expenses if the improvements are done while everything is still rental property. When you convert units to personal use, you stop depreciation on those units going forward - no need to recapture depreciation already taken for the period when they were legitimate business assets. However, if you convert units to personal use shortly after making improvements (like within the same tax year), the IRS might question whether those improvements were truly for business purposes. They could potentially disallow those deductions arguing they were personal in nature from the beginning.

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Nia Harris

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GalaxyGazer

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How exactly does it work? Does it just give general advice or does it actually help with the calculations for your specific property? I've been using a spreadsheet for my rental property expense allocations but it's getting messy with all the different improvements.

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Mateo Sanchez

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I'm skeptical about these online tools. How does it account for state-specific rules? My CPA told me that property improvement depreciation can vary depending on state regulations, especially for mixed-use properties.

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Nia Harris

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Something else to consider - if you're planning to live in part of the property while renting the rest, make sure your LLC operating agreement and insurance properly reflect this arrangement. Many insurance policies for investment properties don't cover owner occupancy, and some lenders have restrictions on this too. We ran into major issues with our commercial liability coverage when we converted part of our rental property to personal use.

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Sean Kelly

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered! Did you need to restructure your LLC or create a separate entity for the personal portion? Our current insurance is definitely set up for a 100% rental property.

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We didn't need to create a separate entity, but we did have to amend our LLC operating agreement to specifically allow for owner occupancy. The bigger issue was insurance - we ended up needing a hybrid policy that covered both the business rental units and our personal living space. It was more expensive than our previous commercial-only policy. I'd also recommend checking any existing mortgage terms. Our lender required notification and reapproval when we changed from 100% rental to partial owner-occupied. Some commercial loans have clauses prohibiting owner occupancy altogether.

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Carmen Vega

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Has anyone here dealt with allocation of shared utilities in a situation like this? I'm in a similar position with a commercial/residential mixed building and I'm confused about how to handle common area utilities when part is business and part is personal.

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Zara Mirza

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For shared utilities, you'll need a reasonable allocation method consistently applied. Square footage is most common - if your personal space is 30% of the building, you'd allocate 30% of common utilities as personal (non-deductible) and 70% as business expense. Some property owners install separate meters when possible, which makes documentation cleaner. For things that can't be separately metered, keep detailed records of your allocation methodology. The IRS wants to see that you're using a reasonable, consistent approach rather than arbitrary assignments.

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One thing I'd strongly recommend is getting everything documented properly from the start. When we did a similar conversion, our CPA advised us to create a formal "conversion plan" that outlined exactly when each unit would transition from business to personal use, along with the square footage allocations. This documentation became crucial later when we had questions about which improvements qualified for depreciation. We included photos of the property before improvements, detailed cost breakdowns for each area, and a timeline of when different spaces would change use. Also, consider whether you want to elect out of bonus depreciation for some of these improvements. While bonus depreciation gives you bigger deductions upfront, it can create complications if you convert units to personal use shortly after. Sometimes taking regular depreciation over the longer schedule gives you more flexibility, especially with mixed-use properties like yours. Your accountant will probably want to see all this documentation, so getting it organized now will save you time and potentially money in professional fees later!

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Drake

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This is really helpful advice about documentation! I'm just starting to research this topic since my family is considering a similar situation. Quick question - when you mention "electing out of bonus depreciation," is that something you do on a property-by-property basis or improvement-by-improvement basis? And does that election have to be made in the first year you place the improvements in service, or can you make that choice later? I want to make sure I understand the timing before we start any work.

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