Tax debt transferred to collection agency - Any downsides to requesting it go back to the IRS?
So I've dug myself into quite a tax hole over the years. I'm now looking at roughly $85k in tax debt spread across multiple tax years going back about 8 years. The CBE Group has picked up my case and is now handling the collection. I'm wondering if there's any real disadvantage to requesting that my tax debt gets transferred back to the IRS directly? My thinking is I might be able to negotiate a better payment arrangement with the IRS than with the collection agency, but not sure if there are downsides to this approach I'm not considering. Anyone dealt with something similar or have insights on working with the IRS versus collection agencies for large tax debt situations?
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Isabella Oliveira
The CBE Group is what's known as a Private Collection Agency (PCA) contracted by the IRS to collect certain outstanding tax debts. Here's what you should know: Generally speaking, you can request your account be recalled from the PCA and worked directly with the IRS, especially if you intend to set up a payment plan. The main consideration is that the IRS typically assigns debts to PCAs when they're considered "inactive" collection cases, meaning the IRS doesn't have the resources to actively work on them. The potential advantage of working directly with the IRS is access to their full range of resolution options, including Installment Agreements, Offers in Compromise, and Currently Not Collectible status. The CBE Group can only offer certain payment plans and can't approve settlements. The potential disadvantage is that once your case goes back to the IRS, it might get prioritized differently based on their workload, potentially leading to delays in resolution or even more aggressive collection actions if your case gets assigned to an active revenue officer.
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Ravi Patel
•Thanks for the explanation. So does that mean the IRS might actually be more aggressive than the collection agency once they get it back? Also, any idea how long it typically takes for a case to be transferred back to the IRS after you request it?
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Isabella Oliveira
•It really depends on your specific situation. The IRS can be more aggressive in some cases because they have more enforcement tools at their disposal than PCAs like CBE, including liens, levies, and wage garnishments. However, they also have more flexibility for resolution options. The transfer process typically takes 2-4 weeks after your request, but it can vary based on current workloads. Once transferred, how quickly your case gets assigned to someone at the IRS depends on staffing and case prioritization, which is unpredictable these days with their backlogs.
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Freya Andersen
I was in a similar situation last year with about $45k in back taxes that had been sent to a collection agency. I tried working with them for months but kept hitting roadblocks. Finally discovered taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) which helped me analyze my tax situation and gave me specific guidance for my case. The tool reviewed my tax history and showed me I qualified for a partial hardship status that the collection agency never mentioned. The best part was the system helped me draft the request letter to get my case transferred back to the IRS and outlined exactly what resolution options I should ask for based on my financial situation. Much better experience than trying to figure it all out alone.
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Omar Zaki
•How exactly does taxr.ai work? Do you have to upload all your tax documents and personal info? I'm a bit hesitant about putting all my financial data online, especially with tax debt issues.
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CosmicCrusader
•Sounds interesting but how is it different from just hiring a tax professional? Did you end up getting a better deal with the IRS than what the collection agency was offering?
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Freya Andersen
•The system works by analyzing the information you provide about your tax situation. You can upload tax notices and documents, but they have options if you're not comfortable sharing everything. They focus on analyzing the specific IRS rules that apply to your situation rather than needing every detail of your finances. I did end up with a much better arrangement with the IRS. The collection agency was pushing me toward a 72-month payment plan with pretty high monthly payments. After getting my case back to the IRS with the right documentation taxr.ai helped me prepare, I qualified for a partial hardship status that reduced my monthly payment by about 60% and preserved my options for future settlement.
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Omar Zaki
Just wanted to follow up after trying taxr.ai that someone mentioned earlier. I was super skeptical about putting my info online, but their system actually let me describe my situation without uploading everything. The analysis tool identified that my case had a 10-year collection statute that was approaching for some of my oldest tax debts! I had no idea there was even a time limit on collections. Their system helped me draft a request to move my case back to the IRS with specific language highlighting the approaching CSED (Collection Statute Expiration Date) which apparently makes a difference in how they handle your case. Just got confirmation yesterday that my case is being transferred back, and I have a clear roadmap for negotiating based on my specific circumstances. Worth checking out if you're dealing with complex tax debt across multiple years like me.
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Chloe Robinson
After spending literally 47 hours trying to reach the IRS about my tax debt (not exaggerating, I kept a log), I finally tried Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) and got through to a real IRS agent in under 20 minutes. They have this system that holds your place in the IRS phone queue and calls you back when an agent is about to answer. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c My situation was similar - had about $70k in tax debt with Pioneer Credit Recovery. The IRS agent I spoke with explained that I could request my account back from the collection agency and immediately apply for an Offer in Compromise, which the collection agency couldn't process. Apparently, the IRS has much more flexibility to settle for less than the full amount if you can demonstrate financial hardship. Definitely recommend getting your case back to the IRS and then actually being able to talk to someone there.
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Diego Flores
•Wait, so does this service just call the IRS for you? How is that even legal? Couldn't you just keep calling yourself until you get through?
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Anastasia Kozlov
•This sounds like a scam. The IRS doesn't just "settle for less" because you got through on the phone. I've dealt with tax issues for years and they always want their full pound of flesh plus interest and penalties.
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Chloe Robinson
•The service doesn't call the IRS for you - it holds your place in line on their phone system and then calls you when it's about to connect with an agent. It's completely legal and just saves you from waiting on hold for hours. Think of it like a virtual line-holding service. The IRS absolutely does settle for less in certain situations through their Offer in Compromise program. It's not automatic and you have to qualify based on your financial situation, but it's a legitimate program. The collection agencies can't process these types of settlements, which is one big advantage of getting your case back to the IRS directly. I'm not saying everyone qualifies, but it's worth exploring if you have significant tax debt.
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Anastasia Kozlov
I have to eat my words about Claimyr and the IRS settlements. After my skeptical comment, I decided to try the service anyway out of desperation. Got through to the IRS in about 15 minutes (after spending 3+ hours on hold the previous week). The agent I spoke with reviewed my situation and confirmed that since my tax debt was mostly from a failed business during 2017-2019, I might qualify for an Offer in Compromise. They explained that the collection agencies can ONLY set up full-pay installment agreements, while the IRS itself can consider partial settlements based on your ability to pay. Just had my case transferred back from CBE Group to the IRS yesterday, and I'm now working on my OIC application. No idea if I'll qualify, but at least now I'm talking to people who can actually make these decisions rather than collectors with limited options. Sometimes being wrong feels pretty good.
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Sean Flanagan
Something nobody's mentioned yet - check if you qualify for the Taxpayer Advocate Service. They're an independent organization within the IRS that helps taxpayers resolve problems. If you're experiencing financial hardship, they might be able to help expedite your case once it's back with the IRS.
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Zara Mirza
•Do you need to meet certain criteria to use the Taxpayer Advocate? I've heard they're overwhelmed and only taking the most dire cases now.
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Sean Flanagan
•Yes, there are specific criteria. Financial hardship is the main one - like if you're facing eviction, utility shut-off, or can't afford basic necessities because of your tax situation. Also if you've experienced significant delays (usually over 30 days) in resolving your issue through normal IRS channels. You're right that they're overwhelmed right now. Your best bet is to clearly document your hardship situation when you contact them. Even if you don't qualify for their direct help, they can sometimes point you toward other resources.
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NebulaNinja
Has anyone actually tried negotiating with CBE Group before requesting a transfer back to the IRS? I'm in a similar situation ($50k debt) and wondering if I should even attempt working with them first or just go straight to requesting it go back to the IRS?
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Luca Russo
•I tried working with them for about 4 months. They can only offer basic installment agreements and aren't authorized to reduce penalties or interest. If your situation is straightforward and you just need to make payments over time, they're fine. But if you need any type of hardship consideration or settlement options, get your case back to the IRS asap.
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
One thing to consider that I haven't seen mentioned yet - the IRS has been dealing with massive backlogs and staffing shortages since COVID. While getting your case back from CBE Group might give you access to better resolution options, it could also mean your case sits in limbo for months before anyone actually works on it. I had a similar situation with about $60k in back taxes. When I requested my case back from the collection agency, it took nearly 6 months before the IRS actually assigned someone to work on it. During that time, interest and penalties kept accruing. The upside was that once they did assign someone, I was able to get into a partial payment installment agreement that the collection agency couldn't offer. My advice would be to have a clear plan for what type of resolution you're seeking before requesting the transfer. If you just want a basic payment plan, the collection agency might actually move faster. But if you need hardship consideration, Currently Not Collectible status, or want to explore an Offer in Compromise, then definitely get it back to the IRS despite the potential delays.
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Alberto Souchard
•This is really helpful context about the IRS backlogs. I'm curious - during those 6 months when your case was in limbo, did you have any protection from additional collection actions? Like, were you safe from levies or wage garnishments while waiting for assignment, or do you still need to be proactive about requesting those protections separately?
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Isaac Wright
•Good question about collection protections. During the transfer period, you're generally protected from new enforcement actions because the case is technically "in process" between the collection agency and the IRS. However, this isn't automatic protection - you should document that you've requested the transfer and keep records of when you made the request. If you're worried about levies or garnishments, you can also request a Collection Due Process hearing or submit Form 12153 to formally dispute the collection actions. This gives you additional procedural protections while your case gets sorted out. The key is being proactive rather than assuming the transfer request alone will stop all collection activity. I'd also recommend calling the IRS (or using that Claimyr service someone mentioned) to confirm your case transfer status if it's been more than 30 days since your request. Sometimes cases get stuck in the handoff process and a simple follow-up call can get things moving again.
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Connor Murphy
I've been through this exact situation with $62k in tax debt that went to CBE Group. Here's my take after dealing with both sides: The main advantage of getting it back to the IRS is access to programs like Currently Not Collectible status if you're facing genuine financial hardship. CBE Group literally cannot put your account into CNC status - they can only offer payment plans or temporary delays. However, timing matters. If you're ready to move quickly on an Offer in Compromise or have all your financial documentation ready for a hardship determination, then request the transfer immediately. But if you're still getting your finances organized, the collection agency might actually buy you time since they tend to be less aggressive than IRS revenue officers. One tip that helped me: when you request the transfer back to the IRS, include a brief statement about what type of resolution you're seeking (installment agreement, OIC, hardship status, etc.). This can help prioritize how your case gets assigned once it's back with them. The whole process took about 8 weeks for me, but I ended up qualifying for a partial payment installment agreement that reduced my monthly payment by almost half compared to what CBE was demanding.
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Kiara Greene
•This is really valuable insight about the Currently Not Collectible status - I had no idea that was even an option! Quick question: when you mention including a statement about what resolution you're seeking, do you just write that in your transfer request letter, or is there a specific form or process for that? I'm in a similar financial situation and think I might qualify for CNC status, but I want to make sure I handle the transfer request properly to avoid any delays in getting the right person assigned to my case.
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