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Zoe Stavros

Got IRS letter saying my unpaid taxes were sent to a private debt collector - what now?

So I'm in a bit of a mess with the IRS right now. I didn't pay my taxes for 2021 (some financial hardship stuff happened), and I requested an extension for 2022. Now I've received this letter from the IRS saying they've assigned my overdue tax debt to a private collection agency. I'm honestly freaking out a little because I've never dealt with this before. The letter has all these warnings and deadlines, and I'm not sure what my options are at this point. Do I contact the collection agency directly? Should I try calling the IRS first? Can I still set up some kind of payment plan? I really want to get this resolved before it gets worse, but I'm completely lost on how to proceed. Has anyone dealt with private collection agencies for IRS debt before? Any advice on the best way to handle this situation would be really appreciated.

Jamal Harris

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This situation can feel overwhelming, but it's actually manageable! When the IRS assigns your tax debt to a private collection agency (PCA), it means they're outsourcing the collection process, but you still have the same rights and options as if you were dealing directly with the IRS. First, verify the letter is legitimate. The IRS always sends a notice (CP40) before transferring your account, and they'll identify which of the four approved collection agencies they've assigned (CBE, ConServe, Performant, or Pioneer). You have several options: 1. Contact the collection agency. They can help set up a payment plan for the full amount. 2. Call the IRS directly at 1-800-829-1040 to discuss your situation. You can request to work directly with the IRS instead of the PCA. 3. Look into an Offer in Compromise if you can't pay the full amount. 4. File your 2022 return ASAP, even if you can't pay, to avoid additional penalties. The most important thing is not to ignore this. PCAs can't take enforcement actions like liens or levies, but the underlying tax debt continues to accrue penalties and interest.

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Mei Chen

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Thanks for the info. I got a similar letter last year. How do I know if the collection agency is legit and not a scam? Also, what's the difference between working with the collection agency vs directly with the IRS? Are the payment terms different?

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Jamal Harris

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The four legitimate collection agencies currently authorized by the IRS are CBE Group, ConServe, Performant Financial, and Pioneer Credit Recovery. You can verify this on the official IRS website. If you're contacted by any other company claiming to collect for the IRS, it's likely a scam. The main difference is that while both options allow for installment agreements, working directly with the IRS gives you more options. The IRS can offer more flexible payment terms, potentially lower your overall debt through an Offer in Compromise, or declare you Currently Not Collectible if you're facing significant financial hardship. PCAs are primarily focused on collecting the full amount through payment plans.

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Liam Sullivan

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After struggling with a similar tax debt situation last year, I found an amazing tool that saved me so much stress. I used https://taxr.ai to upload my IRS notice and tax documents, and it analyzed everything and gave me a clear action plan customized to my situation. It explained exactly what my options were based on the specific type of collection notice I received. The best part was it showed me how to draft a response to the collection agency that included references to specific tax codes that applied to my case. It knew exactly which forms I needed to fill out to request a review of my situation. The system even has actual IRS letter templates built in, so I knew exactly what to expect at each stage.

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Amara Okafor

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This sounds interesting but I'm curious - did it actually help you resolve your situation or just give advice? Did you end up paying less than what you originally owed? I've tried tax software before but it never seemed to help with collections issues.

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I'm kinda skeptical about these online tools. How does it know the specific IRS rules about collections? Does it connect you with an actual tax professional or is it just an AI giving generic advice? My situation with the IRS is complicated and I'm worried about getting bad advice.

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Liam Sullivan

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It absolutely helped resolve my situation - I ended up on a payment plan that worked with my budget instead of the much higher monthly payment the collection agency initially demanded. The tool identified that I qualified for the IRS Fresh Start program based on my financial situation, which the collection agency hadn't mentioned. The system actually has the entire IRS Internal Revenue Manual and tax code built into it. It doesn't just give generic advice - it analyzes your specific notice, identifies the collection stage you're in, and provides options based on your financial details. While it's not a replacement for a tax professional in extremely complex cases, it handled my collection issue perfectly and saved me thousands in professional fees.

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I was skeptical about online tax tools, but I decided to give https://taxr.ai a try after posting here. Honestly surprised by how helpful it was! I uploaded my collection notice and answered some questions about my financial situation, and it immediately identified that the collection agency was trying to put me on a payment plan that exceeded what the IRS would require based on my financial situation. The tool generated a financial statement for me using Form 433-F and showed me exactly how to request a lower payment amount based on my actual ability to pay. When I called the collection agency with this information, their whole tone changed - they reduced my monthly payment by more than half! The system even knew about a partial penalty abatement I qualified for that saved me about $800. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with IRS collections.

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Wait this sounds too good to be true. How exactly does this work? Do they have some special connection to the IRS or something? Because last time I called I was on hold for over 2 hours before giving up.

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Dylan Cooper

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This sounds like a scam. Why would I pay someone else to call the IRS? And how do they actually get through faster than I would? The IRS phone system puts everyone in the same queue. I'm calling BS on this one.

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Dylan Cooper

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Sofia Ramirez

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - if your financial situation is really bad, you might qualify for Currently Not Collectible status. I was in a similar situation where I couldn't even afford the minimum payment plan. I submitted Form 433-F showing my income and expenses, and the IRS temporarily paused all collection activities. The debt doesn't go away and interest still accrues, but it stops the immediate pressure. They'll review your financial situation periodically. It bought me time to improve my finances before starting payments.

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Zoe Stavros

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This is so helpful, thank you! Do you know if private collection agencies can put you in Currently Not Collectible status or do I need to work directly with the IRS for that? And how bad does your financial situation need to be to qualify?

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Sofia Ramirez

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Private collection agencies cannot place you in Currently Not Collectible status - that's something only the IRS itself can do. This is actually one big reason you might want to request to work directly with the IRS instead of the collection agency. To qualify for CNC status, you basically need to prove that paying your tax debt would prevent you from meeting basic living expenses. The IRS uses national and local standards for expenses like housing, utilities, food, transportation, etc. If your income barely covers or falls below these standard amounts, you'll likely qualify. You'll need to complete Form 433-F (Collection Information Statement) with detailed information about your income, expenses, assets, and liabilities. Be completely honest - the IRS can verify much of this information.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Has anyone here actually tried negotiating with the private collection agencies? My taxes from 2020 got sent to ConServe and tbh they were a lot easier to deal with than the IRS. They set me up with a 72-month payment plan over the phone in like 20 minutes, no financial statements required. The IRS wanted all these forms and proof of expenses.

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StarSeeker

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My experience was the opposite. Pioneer Credit wanted me to pay $500/month which was impossible for me. When I finally got through to the IRS, they set me up with a $175/month plan based on my actual financials. I think the collection agencies try to get as much as possible while the IRS has more standardized formulas.

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Aidan Percy

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I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago and it was honestly one of the most stressful experiences of my life. The key thing that helped me was understanding that even though your debt is with a private collection agency now, you still have ALL the same rights and options you would have with the IRS directly. Here's what I wish someone had told me from the start: 1. **Don't panic and don't ignore it** - I made the mistake of avoiding calls for weeks which just made everything worse. 2. **You can request to work directly with the IRS instead** - This was a game changer for me. I called the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 and requested my account be returned from the collection agency. They can do this if you set up a payment plan or show financial hardship. 3. **The collection agency will likely push for higher payments** - They tried to get me to pay $400/month. When I worked with the IRS directly, they accepted $150/month based on my actual financial situation. 4. **File any missing returns immediately** - Even if you can't pay, filing stops additional penalties from piling up. The whole process took about 2 months to fully resolve, but once I stopped avoiding it and started taking action, it became much more manageable. You've got this - the fact that you're asking for help shows you're ready to tackle it head-on.

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This is exactly the kind of real-world advice I needed to hear! Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm definitely guilty of the avoidance thing - I've been letting their calls go to voicemail because I didn't know what to say. Quick question about requesting to work directly with the IRS - did you have to provide any specific reasons or documentation when you called to request your account be returned? And how long did it take for them to actually transfer it back from the collection agency? I'm worried about getting caught in limbo between the two while they figure it out. Also, when you say the IRS accepted $150/month based on your financial situation, did you have to fill out those financial disclosure forms or was it more straightforward than that?

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When I called the IRS to request my account be returned, I didn't need any special documentation upfront - I just explained that I wanted to work directly with them to set up a payment plan. They asked for basic info to verify my identity and locate my account. The agent was actually pretty helpful and explained that this was a common request. The transfer back took about 2-3 weeks. During that time, I got calls from both the collection agency and received IRS correspondence, which was confusing. The IRS agent told me to continue working with the collection agency until I received official notice that my account was transferred back, but to mention that a transfer was in process. For the payment amount, yes I did have to complete Form 433-F (the financial disclosure form), but the IRS agent walked me through it over the phone rather than making me mail it in. It was actually less complicated than I expected - mostly just listing monthly income, necessary expenses like rent/utilities/groceries, and any assets. They use standard allowances for most expenses so you don't need to justify every dollar. The key is being honest about your actual financial situation. The relief I felt once I had a manageable payment plan in place was incredible. Hang in there!

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Emma Anderson

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I went through almost the exact same situation last year - the anxiety and confusion you're feeling is totally normal! Here's what I learned that might help: **First, breathe.** I know it feels overwhelming, but you have more options than you think. The IRS sending your debt to a private collection agency doesn't mean you're out of options - it actually just gives you a different path to resolve this. **Verify everything first.** Make sure the letter is legitimate by checking that it's from one of the four authorized agencies (CBE Group, ConServe, Performant, or Pioneer). The IRS website has a list of these. **You have three main paths:** 1. Work with the collection agency directly (often pushes for higher payments) 2. Request your account be returned to the IRS (usually better terms) 3. If you're in serious financial hardship, request Currently Not Collectible status **My biggest mistake was avoiding their calls for weeks.** Once I finally engaged and started asking questions about my options, everything became much clearer. The collection agency initially wanted $350/month from me, but when I requested to work with the IRS directly, they accepted $120/month based on my actual financial situation. **Don't forget to file that 2022 return ASAP** - even if you can't pay what you owe, filing stops additional penalties from accumulating. You're already taking the right step by seeking advice. This situation is resolvable, and you're going to get through it!

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JaylinCharles

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This is such reassuring advice, thank you! I'm definitely in that avoidance phase right now and your experience gives me hope that this is actually manageable. One thing I'm curious about - when you requested your account be returned to the IRS, did the collection agency give you any pushback or try to convince you to stay with them? I'm worried they might make it sound like working with the IRS directly would be worse somehow. Also, the $120/month payment you mentioned - is that something you'll be paying indefinitely or does it have an end date? I'm trying to figure out what a realistic timeline looks like for actually getting this resolved. Thanks again for sharing your experience. It really helps to hear from someone who's been through this exact situation!

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LongPeri

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The collection agency didn't really push back when I mentioned wanting to work with the IRS directly - I think they're used to people making that request. They just said something like "that's your right, but we can help you set up a payment plan right now if you'd prefer." No pressure tactics or anything scary. The $120/month payment plan I'm on runs for 72 months total, so it does have a definite end date. However, if my financial situation improves significantly, the IRS can review and potentially increase the payment amount. On the flip side, if things get worse, I can request to modify it or even pause it temporarily. The timeline really depends on how much you owe and what payment amount you can manage. The IRS is surprisingly reasonable about working with your actual budget rather than just demanding whatever they can get. What helped me was being completely honest about my finances on that Form 433-F - they base everything on real numbers, not guesswork. One more tip: once you get a payment plan set up (whether with the collection agency or IRS), make sure you never miss a payment. Missing payments can void the agreement and land you back in collections. Setting up automatic payments was a lifesaver for me! You're going to get through this - the hardest part is just making that first call to start the process.

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I can definitely relate to the anxiety you're feeling right now - I went through this exact situation about 18 months ago and it felt like my world was falling apart at the time. But I want to reassure you that this is absolutely resolvable and you have several good options available. The most important thing I learned is that being assigned to a private collection agency doesn't mean you've lost your rights or options with the IRS. In fact, you can request to have your account transferred back to the IRS at any time, and they often offer more reasonable payment terms than the collection agencies do. Here's my advice based on what worked for me: 1. **Call the IRS first, not the collection agency.** The number is 1-800-829-1040. Yes, you'll be on hold for a while, but it's worth it. Tell them you want to discuss options for your tax debt that's been assigned to a collection agency. 2. **Be completely honest about your financial situation.** They'll likely have you complete Form 433-F over the phone, which asks about your income, necessary expenses, and assets. Don't try to hide anything - they can verify most of it anyway, and honesty gets you better terms. 3. **Ask about all your options.** Payment plans, Offer in Compromise, Currently Not Collectible status - make sure you understand what's available based on your specific situation. 4. **File that 2022 return immediately.** Even if you can't pay, filing stops additional failure-to-file penalties from piling up. The collection agency initially wanted $425/month from me, which would have been impossible. When I worked directly with the IRS, they accepted $165/month based on my actual ability to pay. The whole process took about 6 weeks to fully resolve, but the relief was incredible once I had a manageable plan in place. Don't let the fear paralyze you - taking action is the only way forward, and you have more control over this situation than it probably feels like right now.

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