Will my tax refund be seized if my tax debt was sold to a debt collector? Kids as dependents question
I found out recently that my outstanding tax debt (around $6,700) has been sold to some third-party debt collection agency. I've gone through all the paperwork they sent me and there's absolutely no mention of a tax lien or anything like that - just notifications about the debt being transferred to this collector. I'm getting ready to file my taxes for this year and I'm planning to claim my kids as dependents. What I'm really worried about is whether my refund will still get taken away even though my debt isn't with the IRS anymore? Since the debt collector now owns it, does that change how refund offsets work? I've been counting on this refund to catch up on some bills and I'm not sure what to expect now that a collection agency is involved instead of dealing directly with the IRS. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Any insight would be super helpful, thanks in advance!
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Ravi Malhotra
This is an interesting situation. When the IRS sells or transfers your tax debt to a private collection agency, they're still collecting on behalf of the IRS - they don't actually "own" your debt. The IRS still maintains authority over your account. For your question about claiming kids and refunds - yes, you can still claim your children as dependents if you qualify to do so. However, if you owe federal tax debt, the Treasury Offset Program (TOP) will likely still intercept your federal tax refund, even if a private collection agency is handling your case. This is because the refund offset is done by the Treasury Department, not the collection agency. What you might want to do is call the Treasury Offset Program directly at 800-304-3107 to verify if your refund will be offset. You can also try calling the IRS at 800-829-1040 to discuss your options, such as an installment agreement, which might help with your situation.
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Freya Christensen
•But if the debt is sold to a third party, doesn't that mean the IRS got paid already? Like when a credit card company sells your debt to a collector? I thought once it's sold, the original creditor is out of the picture.
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Ravi Malhotra
•No, that's a common misconception. When the IRS assigns your tax debt to a private collection agency, they're not "selling" it in the way credit card companies sell debt. The private agencies are contractors working on behalf of the IRS to collect the debt. The IRS still owns the debt and maintains control over your tax account. Unlike credit card debt, federal tax debt is rarely sold off completely. The IRS is authorized to use private collection agencies to help collect certain overdue tax debts, but these agencies don't purchase the debt - they just help collect it and receive a commission. This means all the IRS enforcement tools, including refund offsets, tax liens, and levies, can still be utilized regardless of whether a private agency is contacting you about the debt.
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Omar Hassan
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Chloe Robinson
•How accurate was the info from that site? I've been getting collection calls for taxes from 2020 and I'm not sure if I should trust what they're telling me. Does taxr.ai tell you how to negotiate with the collectors?
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Diego Chavez
•I've seen a few tax analyzer tools before but they usually just give generic advice. Does this actually look at your specific notices or is it just a glorified FAQ? My situation with the IRS is pretty complicated with multiple years involved.
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Omar Hassan
•The information was extremely accurate - it matched what I later confirmed with the IRS directly. The difference was I didn't have to wait on hold for hours. It analyzes your specific notices - you just upload photos of them and it identifies exactly what type of notice you've received and what it means for your situation. Yes, it does provide negotiation strategies specific to your situation. It explained what my rights were regarding the collection agency and gave me specific scripts to use when talking to them. This helped me get a much better payment arrangement than they initially offered.
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Diego Chavez
I was super skeptical about using an online tool for something as serious as tax debt, but after getting nowhere with the collection agency, I gave taxr.ai a try based on the recommendation here. It was honestly a game-changer! I uploaded my collection letters and tax notices, and within minutes I had a clear explanation of my situation and my options. Turns out my refund COULD still be seized even with the collection agency involved (which nobody had clearly explained to me before). The tool helped me file a request for a hardship exemption that protected part of my refund. I wouldn't have even known that was an option! Plus it showed me exactly how to document my case. Definitely worth checking out if you're confused about collection agencies and refunds.
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NeonNebula
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Anastasia Kozlov
•How does this Claimyr thing actually work? I don't get it. They somehow magically get you through the IRS phone system? Sounds too good to be true honestly.
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Sean Kelly
•This seems sketchy. Why would I pay someone to call the IRS for me? Plus how do I know they're not just recording my tax info? The IRS phone system sucks but eventually you get through if you call first thing in the morning.
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NeonNebula
•It works by using a callback system - they navigate the IRS phone tree for you and when they reach a point where they're about to connect with an agent, they call you and connect you directly to the IRS. You're the one who speaks with the IRS agent, not them. I was skeptical too, but after wasting nearly 6 hours across multiple attempts, it was worth it to me. They don't record your call or access your tax information - they simply get you to the front of the queue and then connect you directly. You're in complete control of the actual conversation with the IRS. And while calling early might work sometimes, I tried that strategy for over a week with no success, especially during tax season when the lines are constantly jammed.
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Sean Kelly
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Zara Mirza
I don't think anyone's mentioned this yet, but you should look into an Offer in Compromise. If your tax debt is with a private collector, you might qualify to settle for less than you owe. I managed to settle a $12k tax debt for about $4k because of my financial situation. Worth looking into before you lose multiple years of refunds.
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StarSurfer
•I hadn't even thought about that! Do you know if I can still do an Offer in Compromise once my debt has been sent to a collection agency? And did you need to hire a tax professional to help with yours or did you do it yourself?
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Zara Mirza
•Yes, you can still do an Offer in Compromise even if your debt has been sent to a collection agency. The collection agency is just working on behalf of the IRS, but all settlement decisions still go through the IRS itself. I initially tried doing it myself using the IRS forms (Form 656 and 433-A), but I made some mistakes on the financial statement. I ended up using a tax resolution firm that cost me about $1,500, but they got me a much better offer than I would have managed on my own. If your situation is fairly straightforward, you might be able to do it yourself, but having someone experienced can really help if your case is at all complicated. The key is documenting your true financial situation accurately.
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Luca Russo
Just a heads up, if your debt was sent to a private collector, be super careful about scams. Make sure you verify it's legitimate before making any payments. I got scammed by someone pretending to be from a company collecting for the IRS. Call the IRS directly to confirm which agency has your debt before sending any money!
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Nia Harris
•This is so important! How can you tell the difference between legit collectors and scammers? I've been getting calls about tax debt but I'm scared to even talk to them.
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