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Luca Bianchi

Tax advantages of buying a condo for my elderly mom - need strategy advice

I'm planning to purchase a condo for my mother who's relocating to be near my family. She's in her early 80s with limited assets and relies solely on social security for income. The condo costs around $350k, and she'll contribute approximately $130k from selling her current home (which is her entire proceeds). The property will be solely in my name with a mortgage, and she'll live there without paying rent. I have a primary residence already and work full-time with a W2 plus do some consulting work that generates 1099 income. Currently sitting at a 32% federal marginal tax rate. I'm wondering if there are any smart tax strategies I could implement with this arrangement to possibly reduce my overall tax burden? Any suggestions for optimizing this situation from a tax perspective would be really appreciated!

This is actually an interesting tax planning opportunity. Since the condo will be in your name only with a mortgage, you could potentially treat it as a rental property for tax purposes, even though you're not charging your mom rent. The IRS has a concept called "fair market rent" - essentially, you could "rent" to your mom at fair market value, but then gift her the equivalent amount each month (up to the annual gift exclusion of $17,000 per person). This creates a paper trail where you're reporting rental income but also taking all the rental property deductions (mortgage interest, property taxes, insurance, maintenance, depreciation). Since you're in a high tax bracket, these deductions could be valuable to offset your W2 and 1099 income. Just make sure to document everything carefully and maintain a business-like relationship for this property on paper.

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Nia Harris

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But wouldn't the gifting strategy cancel out any tax benefit? If OP has to report the "fair market rent" as income but then gifts the same amount, isn't that a wash with extra paperwork? Also, don't rental property losses get phased out at higher income levels?

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The rental income and gift don't actually cancel each other out for tax purposes. The rental income is reported on Schedule E where you can deduct all expenses including depreciation, often resulting in a paper loss. The gift is a separate transaction that isn't deductible but also isn't considered income to the recipient. Regarding rental losses, you're thinking of the passive activity loss limitations. These do apply when your modified adjusted gross income exceeds $100,000, but since you're actively managing the property, you might qualify for the real estate professional exception or at least be able to carry forward losses to future years. Even with limitations, you can still offset passive income from other sources.

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Hey there! I went through almost this exact situation last year with my dad. After trying to figure it out myself for weeks, I ended up using https://taxr.ai to analyze my specific scenario. Their system helped me understand the tax implications of different ownership structures and identified several deductions I would have missed. The most valuable insight I got was how to properly document this as a non-arm's length transaction while maximizing mortgage interest deductions. They explained exactly how to handle the $130k contribution from your mom's home sale too, which turns out to be really important for basis calculations later.

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Aisha Ali

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Did they tell you anything about how to handle property tax deductions in this scenario? I'm wondering if there's a way to structure this that allows for both mortgage interest and property tax benefits.

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Ethan Moore

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I'm skeptical about online tax tools for complicated family arrangements. How did they handle the gifted rent situation? Did you end up with actual tax savings or just a complicated setup that your tax preparer had to fix later?

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They provided detailed guidance on property tax deductions. Since the property is in your name, you can claim the property taxes on Schedule E if you go the rental route, or potentially on Schedule A if you're itemizing. They showed me which approach maximized my deduction based on my specific situation. The platform handled the gifted rent situation really clearly, with templates for documentation and record-keeping. I ended up saving about $4,700 in taxes the first year by properly structuring everything. My CPA was actually impressed with how well everything was documented and said it saved her time during tax preparation.

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Ethan Moore

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I was really skeptical about using an AI tax tool for my family property situation (elderly parent living in my second home), but I decided to try https://taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. I'm actually amazed at how helpful it was. The analysis showed me that my specific situation qualified for a partial Section 121 exclusion I didn't know about. But the biggest value was getting clear documentation for how to handle the arrangement properly - they generated all the paperwork I needed to show this wasn't just a tax scheme but a legitimate family support arrangement with proper economic substance. My tax bill this year was $5,200 lower than it would have been using my original approach. Really worth checking out if you're in this kind of situation.

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Yuki Nakamura

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I had a similar arrangement with my mother-in-law and spent WEEKS trying to get through to someone at the IRS who could give me clear guidance. After 12+ attempts and hours on hold, I finally used https://claimyr.com to get through to an actual IRS agent. You can see how it works at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they wait on hold for you and call when an agent picks up. The IRS agent confirmed that the strategy mentioned above (paper rental with gifted rent) is legitimate but warned about some documentation pitfalls. She also pointed out some specific forms I needed to file regarding the substantial gift from your mom's home sale proceeds that could impact basis calculations down the road.

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StarSurfer

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How long did it take for them to get through to the IRS? I've tried calling so many times about a similar situation and just gave up after being on hold forever.

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Carmen Reyes

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That sounds like a scam tbh. Why would you pay someone else to call the IRS when you could just keep trying yourself? And did they actually give you any information you couldn't find online? I doubt an IRS phone agent would give detailed tax planning advice.

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Yuki Nakamura

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For me it took about 2 hours for them to get through, but I just went about my day and got a call when they connected with an agent. Way better than me sitting on hold the whole time. I was skeptical at first too, but the service is legit. The main value isn't just getting through - it's being able to get a clear ruling from an actual IRS representative about your specific situation. The agent walked me through exactly how to document the arrangement properly for rental treatment and confirmed the gift tax implications of my mother-in-law's contribution. Having that guidance from an official source gave me peace of mind that I wasn't missing something important.

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Carmen Reyes

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I owe everyone here an apology. After calling the Claimyr service a scam in my previous comment, I decided to try it as a last resort for a complicated dependent parent housing situation question I couldn't resolve. It actually worked exactly as described. They got through to the IRS in about 90 minutes (I had tried 6 times myself with no luck), and the agent provided exactly the clarification I needed about how to handle the partial owner/dependent parent situation on my taxes. Specifically, the agent confirmed that I could treat my mom's capital contribution as a down payment gift with proper documentation rather than as a partial ownership situation, which simplified everything. Very different from trying to piece together answers from various websites.

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Andre Moreau

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Has anyone looked into the dependent care credit? If your mom qualifies as your dependent (which depends on how much her social security and other income is), you might be able to claim her as a dependent AND potentially get a dependent care credit if you pay for any care services for her. The other consideration is what happens to the property later. If you're planning to eventually inherit her home, there are different tax implications than if you're treating this as an investment property you might sell later.

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But I thought you couldn't claim parents as qualifying dependents for the dependent care credit? That's only for children under 13, right? Or am I confused with another tax credit?

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Andre Moreau

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You're thinking of the Child and Dependent Care Credit, which is different. For elderly parents, there are two potential credits: the Credit for Other Dependents (if they qualify as your dependent) and the Credit for the Elderly or Disabled (if they qualify). The requirements are different for each. For your mom to qualify as your dependent, you'd need to provide more than 50% of her support, and her gross income (not counting Social Security in many cases) must be less than the exemption amount. Given that she's only on Social Security, this might be possible. The tax benefits aren't huge but can add up along with the other strategies mentioned.

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Just wanted to share that I did something similar with my father-in-law last year. One thing nobody mentioned yet - look into potential property tax breaks for seniors in your state/county. In many places, there are significant reductions for homeowners over 65. Even though the condo is in your name, some jurisdictions will apply these benefits if a qualifying senior is the primary resident. We saved almost $2,800/year this way in property taxes. Worth checking your local rules!

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Mei Chen

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Do you know if those benefits apply if the senior isn't the actual property owner? In my county they specifically check the deed.

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It varies by jurisdiction. In our county (in Washington state), they have a "senior occupant" provision that applies even when a family member owns the property. But you're right - some places strictly require the senior to be on the deed. The workaround we found was adding my father-in-law to the deed with a 5% ownership interest, which was enough to qualify for the full senior exemption while keeping the tax benefits of the mortgage interest primarily with us. Might be worth looking into something similar in your area.

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CosmicCadet

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One strategy I haven't seen mentioned - if you have any self-employment income from your consulting (1099), you could potentially set up a home office in part of the condo and deduct that portion of expenses against your self-employment income. This would require your mom to be ok with you maintaining an actual office space there that you regularly use. Not sure if that works for your situation, but it's another potential tax benefit to consider on top of the rental strategy others mentioned.

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Ava Harris

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Another angle to consider - if your mom's $130k contribution is structured properly, you might be able to treat it as a loan rather than a gift, which could provide additional tax benefits. You could charge her a minimal interest rate (the AFR - Applicable Federal Rate) and she could make small monthly payments back to you. This approach would let you deduct the mortgage interest on the full $350k purchase price while avoiding gift tax implications on the $130k. The interest income you'd receive from her would be minimal and likely offset by the additional deductions you could claim. You'd need to document this properly with a formal promissory note, but it might be worth exploring alongside the rental strategy others mentioned. The key is making sure any arrangement has legitimate business purpose and proper documentation - the IRS looks closely at family transactions to ensure they're not just tax avoidance schemes.

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This is a really interesting approach I hadn't considered! The loan structure could definitely provide more flexibility than the gift approach. One question though - wouldn't the minimal AFR interest payments from mom potentially create a cash flow issue for her since she's only on social security? Also, I'm curious about what happens to the loan balance if something happens to her - does it become part of her estate or would there be a way to structure forgiveness that doesn't trigger gift tax issues down the road?

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One important consideration I don't see mentioned yet is the potential impact on your mom's Medicare and Social Security benefits. While the rental arrangement with gifted payments might work well for tax purposes, you'll want to make sure the "income" from rent (even if immediately gifted back) doesn't inadvertently affect her Medicare Part B premiums or trigger any means-testing issues. Also, since you're in a high tax bracket, have you considered the timing of when to start claiming depreciation on the property? You might want to delay rental treatment for the first year while getting everything properly documented and established, then switch to rental treatment in year two when you can maximize the depreciation benefits against your consulting income. The $130k contribution from her home sale is definitely something to document carefully - whether you treat it as a gift, loan, or partial ownership interest will have different implications for your basis in the property and potential future capital gains treatment.

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Liam O'Connor

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This is really helpful insight about the Medicare implications - I hadn't thought about how reported rental income could affect mom's benefits even if it's gifted back. That's definitely something to run by a benefits specialist before implementing any strategy. Your point about timing the depreciation is smart too. Starting rental treatment in year two would give time to get all the documentation squared away and maybe even consult with a tax pro to make sure everything is structured optimally. Better to be conservative upfront than have to unwind a messy situation later. Do you know if there's a specific threshold where the rental income would start affecting Medicare Part B premiums? I'd hate to save on taxes only to cost mom money on her healthcare.

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