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This is definitely a good sign! I went through the exact same thing about 3 weeks ago. The all-zeros transcript means your return is officially in the IRS system and being processed - it's like getting a "we received your package" notification when you ship something. From my experience and what I've seen others report, you're probably looking at about a week before you see the actual codes and numbers populate. When it does update, you'll likely see code 150 first (which means return filed), then hopefully code 846 (refund issued) shortly after. The Feb 2025 date is just a system placeholder - ignore it completely. I was worried about that too but it means nothing for your actual timeline. For planning your summer budget, I'd estimate you're probably 1-2 weeks out from having a concrete refund date, assuming no issues with your return. Keep checking daily - once it starts updating, it usually happens pretty quickly!
Thanks for sharing your experience @Kaiya Rivera! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through this recently. Quick question - when your transcript updated with the actual codes, did it happen all at once or did you see them appear gradually over a few days? I'm trying to figure out if I should expect everything to populate at once or if it might be a step-by-step process. Also, did your WMR tool update around the same time as your transcript, or was there a delay between them?
@Kaiya Rivera For me, the codes appeared all at once when the transcript updated! I checked one morning and still had all zeros, then that same afternoon everything was there - code 150, my refund amount, and even the 846 code with my DDD direct (deposit date .)It was like flipping a switch. As for WMR vs transcript timing, my transcript updated about 12-18 hours before WMR showed any changes. So definitely keep checking your transcript daily since it seems to be the faster indicator. The waiting is nerve-wracking but once things start moving, they move fast!
I'm going through this exact same situation right now! Filed in mid-February and just got access to my 2024 transcript yesterday - all zeros just like yours. It's actually really comforting to see so many people confirming this is normal and a good sign. I was starting to worry something was wrong since it took so long for the transcript to even show up. The hardest part is the waiting when you're trying to plan ahead financially. I'm in a similar boat - trying to figure out some home repairs and whether I should wait for the refund or just go ahead and put it on credit. Sounds like we're both probably looking at another week or so based on everyone's experiences here. Thanks for posting this question! Sometimes it feels like you're the only one dealing with these IRS mysteries, but clearly we're all in the same confusing boat together. I'll definitely be checking my transcript daily now that I know what to look for. Fingers crossed we both see those real numbers soon! š¤
@Carmen Diaz I totally feel you on the financial planning stress! I m'actually in a similar spot - trying to decide whether to book our family vacation now or wait for the refund to clear. It s'so frustrating when you re'trying to be responsible with budgeting but the IRS timeline is such a mystery. At least now I know this all-zeros thing is actually progress and not some weird glitch. The fact that so many people here have been through the exact same pattern is really reassuring. Here s'hoping we both see those magical codes pop up in the next few days! š
Is anyone else confused about whether closing costs affect the calculation? I sold my house and paid like $25k in realtor fees, title insurance, etc. Can I subtract those from my sale price before figuring out my gain?
Yes! Selling expenses like real estate commissions, title insurance, legal fees, and administrative costs can all be subtracted from your sale price when calculating your gain. This effectively lowers your capital gain and is definitely worth tracking.
Great question about the home improvements! I went through something similar when I sold my primary residence. You absolutely want to add those improvement costs to your basis - they can significantly reduce your capital gain. For the improvements you mentioned (roof and kitchen renovation totaling $42,000), those definitely qualify as capital improvements that increase your basis. Even if you don't have every single receipt, the IRS allows reasonable estimates for legitimate improvements. I'd suggest gathering whatever documentation you do have and making conservative estimates for anything missing. With your numbers: $425K sale price minus selling costs, minus your original $298K purchase price, minus $42K in improvements - you're likely looking at a gain well under the $250K exclusion (or $500K if married filing jointly). One tip: don't forget to include any selling expenses (realtor commissions, title fees, etc.) as they reduce your taxable gain too. TurboTax should handle the forms correctly, but definitely confirm you're reporting it as your primary residence sale to trigger the exclusion properly.
Whatever you do, DON'T ignore the notice! I made that mistake a couple years ago thinking it was a scam, and ended up with additional penalties and eventually had to deal with collections. The 30-day response window is really important. Also if you've moved recently, make sure to file Form 8822 to update your address with the IRS. I learned this the hard way when notices were going to my old address and I never received them.
What tax software do ppl recommend that might help avoid these issues in the first place? I've been using the free version of Credit Karma Tax but now I'm worried it might be missing things.
I've had good experiences with FreeTaxUSA. It's not as well-known as TurboTax or H&R Block, but it's much cheaper and still walks you through everything really thoroughly. The federal filing is free and state is like $15. It specifically asks about less common income sources that other software sometimes glosses over.
I went through this exact same panic when I got my first CP2000 notice! Here's what I learned: First, verify it's legitimate by checking that all your personal info is correct and comparing it against what you have on file with the IRS. Real CP2000 notices will have your correct SSN, name, and address. Next, gather all your 2023 tax documents - your filed return, all 1099s, W-2s, and any other income documents. The most common cause of CP2000 notices is that a business or bank reported income to the IRS that didn't make it onto your return, or it was reported differently than expected. Don't rush to pay! Take the full 30 days to review everything carefully. If you find you did make an error, you can often set up a payment plan. If you believe the IRS is wrong, you can dispute it with documentation. Either way, responding within 30 days is crucial to avoid additional penalties. Consider consulting a tax professional if the amount is significant or if you're unsure about how to respond. Many will do a consultation for a reasonable fee and can help you navigate the response process properly.
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually dealing with my first CP2000 notice right now and was feeling overwhelmed. The part about taking the full 30 days to review everything is reassuring - I was worried I needed to respond immediately. One question though - when you mention consulting a tax professional, do you have any recommendations for finding someone reputable? I'm worried about getting overcharged or finding someone who doesn't really know what they're doing with these specific notices.
Hey GalaxyGlider! I went through almost the exact same thing last year - got that weird "TAX REFUND PROC for RFND DISB" description and was missing about $900 from my expected refund. That description is totally normal, so don't worry about it being fraudulent. The missing $1,150 is most likely due to an offset through the Treasury Offset Program. This happens when you have outstanding federal debts like defaulted student loans, unpaid child support, or even old tax debts you might have forgotten about. The frustrating part is they don't warn you beforehand - you just get less money than expected. Here's what helped me get answers immediately instead of waiting weeks for a letter: **Call 1-800-304-3107** (Treasury Offset Program) - They can tell you right away if any agency claimed part of your refund and which debt it went toward. This was a game-changer for me. **Check your IRS online account** at irs.gov/account - Look for any notices that might already be posted there before the paper letter arrives. **Get your tax transcript** - Request a "2023 Account Transcript" online. It shows all the transaction codes and will have a code 846 for what they sent you, plus any offset codes. In my case, it turned out to be an old student loan from years ago that had gone into default without me realizing it. I was even able to get a partial refund back by proving financial hardship. Don't panic - your money went somewhere legitimate, you just need to figure out where!
This is incredibly helpful, Benjamin! I'm definitely going to call that Treasury Offset Program number first thing tomorrow. I'm really hoping it's not a student loan issue since I thought I was current on everything, but like you said, old debts can resurface unexpectedly. The tax transcript option sounds really useful too - I had no idea those transaction codes would show exactly where the money went. It's such a relief to know there are ways to get immediate answers instead of just sitting here worried for weeks. Quick question - when you called 1-800-304-3107, were you able to get through easily or did you have to wait on hold for a long time? I'm trying to plan when to call so I don't waste half my day on hold. Thanks so much for sharing your experience and all these specific steps. It really helps to hear from someone who's been through the exact same situation!
@Benjamin Carter When I called that Treasury Offset Program number, the wait time was actually pretty reasonable - maybe 15-20 minutes on hold. Much better than trying to get through to the IRS directly, which can take hours during tax season. I d'recommend calling early in the morning around (8-9 AM when) they first open, or right after lunch around 1-2 PM. Those tend to be the best times to get through quickly. Avoid calling on Mondays or right after major holidays when everyone else is calling too. The agent I spoke with was really helpful and could immediately tell me exactly which agency had claimed my refund and the amount. They also gave me the contact information for the specific agency so I could follow up directly about payment arrangements or hardship options. Hope this helps with your timing! Let us know what you find out when you call.
I've been dealing with IRS refund issues for years as a tax preparer, and this situation is unfortunately very common. The "TAX REFUND PROC for RFND DISB" description is completely legitimate - it's just how certain bank systems display Treasury-processed refunds. Your missing $1,150 is almost certainly due to an offset. The Treasury Offset Program automatically intercepts refunds to pay outstanding federal debts, and they're legally required to do this before you even receive the money. Common reasons include: - Defaulted federal student loans (even old ones you might have forgotten) - Past-due child support obligations - Unpaid federal taxes from previous years - Overpaid unemployment benefits or other federal program debts The quickest way to find out exactly what happened is to call the Bureau of Fiscal Service at 1-800-304-3107. They handle all federal offsets and can tell you immediately which agency claimed your money and the exact amount. This is much faster than waiting for the IRS notice, which can take 4-6 weeks. Also check your IRS online account at irs.gov/account - sometimes offset notices appear there before the paper letter arrives. Don't stress too much - your money went toward a legitimate debt, and in some cases you may be able to request a partial return if you qualify for hardship exemptions.
As someone who just went through this exact same situation last month, I can confirm everything Rudy said is spot on. I was missing $800 from my expected refund and that Bureau of Fiscal Service number (1-800-304-3107) was a lifesaver. I called and found out within 10 minutes that my money went toward an old student loan I had completely forgotten about from college. The agent was really helpful and even explained that I might be able to get some of it back if I could prove current financial hardship. What really caught me off guard was that I never got any advance notice - one day I was expecting my full refund, the next day I had $800 less with no explanation until I made that call. The IRS notice didn't arrive for another 3 weeks after I had already figured everything out. @GalaxyGlider definitely call that number as soon as possible. Even if it's not great news, at least you'll know exactly what's going on instead of wondering and worrying for weeks!
Camila Jordan
One thing I haven't seen mentioned - If your wife already owned her house before marriage and you owned your condo before marriage, be careful about how you're filing. In some states, property owned before marriage remains separate property, which can affect how the rental income and expenses should be reported. If the condo is still in your name only, and not jointly with your wife, you might need to file Schedule E under just your name, not jointly. The LLC complicates things further. You should really consult with a CPA who specializes in real estate, not just a general tax preparer.
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Angelica Smith
ā¢That's a great point I hadn't considered. The condo is still in my name only, but we created the LLC together with both our names. Does that change how I should report this on Schedule E? Should I be filing the rental income/expenses through the LLC instead?
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Camila Jordan
ā¢Since the property is still in your name but the LLC has both names, you have a few options. If the LLC is a single-member LLC (taxed as a disregarded entity), you could report it on Schedule E under your name. If it's a multi-member LLC (partnership by default), you'd need to file Form 1065 for the partnership and receive K-1s. In your specific case, since the property hasn't been formally transferred to the LLC (which would require a deed transfer), you might still report it on Schedule E personally. However, the fact that you created an LLC with both names suggests you intended it to be a partnership activity. This is definitely one area where a real estate tax specialist could save you headaches. They might suggest either: 1) formally transferring the property to the LLC, or 2) filing Form 8832 to elect how you want the LLC to be taxed. Don't just follow what your current tax preparer says if they don't specifically understand rental property taxation.
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TillyCombatwarrior
Your tax preparer is being overly cautious. You absolutely can and should claim legitimate rental property expenses on Schedule E even without rental income yet. The IRS allows deductions for properties that are "placed in service" - meaning ready and available for rent - regardless of whether you've found tenants. The fact that you're actively showing the property and being selective about tenants actually strengthens your position. This demonstrates genuine business intent, not a hobby activity. Keep detailed records of your marketing efforts, showings, and communications with potential renters. A few key points for your situation: - Document everything: receipts, photos of work done, rental listings, showing appointments - The LLC formation date doesn't determine "placed in service" - it's when you first made the property available for rent - Start keeping a mileage log NOW for any rental-related trips with the truck - Consider finding a tax professional who specializes in rental properties if your current preparer won't file Schedule E The IRS has consistently ruled in favor of taxpayers who can demonstrate legitimate business purpose and proper documentation. Your expenses are real business costs that should be deductible. Don't let fear of an audit prevent you from claiming legitimate deductions you're entitled to take.
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