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Sorry to jump in with a dumb question, but if the OP just deposits the $2800 check and doesn't report anything on their taxes, would the IRS even know or care about such a small amount? Asking for... research purposes.
Bad idea. Most government agencies report payments to the IRS. The county will likely issue a 1099 for the payment, so the IRS will know about it. If you don't report it, you'll probably get a letter asking why the income reported to them doesn't match what you reported on your return. Even if they didn't issue a 1099, intentionally failing to report income is tax fraud. Not worth the risk over a small amount that might not even result in much tax anyway if you calculate the basis correctly.
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - the state is taking a strip of my front yard for highway widening and offered me $3,200. After reading through all these comments, I'm realizing this is more complicated than I initially thought. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is whether you should get an independent appraisal of the taken property. The government's offer might not reflect the actual fair market value, which could affect your basis calculation and potential gain/loss. In my case, I'm wondering if $3,200 is actually fair compensation or if they're lowballing me. Also, has anyone dealt with the situation where improvements you made (like landscaping, fencing, etc.) are affected by the taking? I had put in some expensive landscaping in that front area a few years ago, and I'm not sure if that factors into the basis calculation or if I should be asking for additional compensation for those improvements. The involuntary conversion rules mentioned earlier sound helpful, but I'm curious if there are any specific deadlines I need to be aware of for making decisions about reinvestment or filing the proper forms.
Great questions! For the independent appraisal, you absolutely have the right to challenge their offer. Many people don't realize that the initial government offer is often negotiable. If you think $3,200 is low, getting your own appraisal could help you negotiate a higher amount - and that higher amount would then be used for your tax calculations too. Regarding improvements like landscaping, those should definitely be included in your basis calculation if they added value to the property. Keep receipts for the landscaping work you did in that area. The tricky part is determining what portion of those improvements is allocable to the specific strip being taken. For the involuntary conversion deadlines, you generally have until the end of the second tax year following the year you receive the payment to reinvest in qualifying replacement property. But there can be exceptions, so definitely confirm the specific timeline that applies to your situation. Don't wait until the last minute to make these decisions!
When I got my first 1099-R last year I was so confused! If you're using tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block, they actually make it pretty easy. You just enter the info from each box exactly as shown on the form. The software figures out the tax impact for you.
Just to add to what others have said - when you file your return, that 1099-R gets reported on Form 8606 if you have any after-tax contributions, but for most people it goes directly on your Form 1040. The distribution amount from Box 1 gets added to your other income, and if you have that dreaded Code 1 in Box 7, you'll also need to file Form 5329 to calculate the 10% additional tax. One thing that might help soften the blow - if you can't pay the full tax bill when you file, the IRS does offer payment plans. The penalty and interest aren't fun, but it's better than ignoring it. Also, for future reference, if you ever need money from retirement accounts again, consider a 401k loan first if your plan allows it - you pay yourself back with interest instead of paying taxes and penalties.
This is really helpful info! I had no idea about Form 5329 - I was just planning to use regular tax software and hoped it would handle everything automatically. The 401k loan idea is definitely something I wish I'd known about before. My plan actually did offer loans but nobody explained that it could've saved me thousands in taxes and penalties. Live and learn I guess! Thanks for mentioning the payment plan option too - with the penalty and taxes this is going to be a bigger hit than I expected.
Double check if your state issued a 1099-G for refunds of state taxes too! Not just unemployment. If you itemized deductions and got a state tax refund for 2022 that you received in 2023, they send a 1099-G for that too. A lot of people forget this isn't just for unemployment.
This!! I almost made this exact mistake. My "mystery" 1099-G turned out to be for my state tax refund, not unemployment at all. Worth checking before assuming the worst.
Another thing to consider - check if you had any overpayments from 2022 that were applied to your 2023 estimated taxes. Sometimes the IRS or state will issue forms that show these transfers, which can create confusion about what year they actually belong to. Also, if you're using tax software that imports documents automatically (like through the IRS Data Retrieval Tool), it might be pulling in a legitimate 2023 1099-G that you weren't expecting. For example, if you received a state tax refund in 2023 for your 2022 return and you itemized deductions that year, the state would issue a 1099-G for that refund. Before panicking about identity theft, I'd recommend logging into your IRS account at irs.gov and checking your tax transcripts. This will show you exactly what forms have been filed under your SSN for 2023. If there's no 1099-G showing up there, then it's definitely just a software issue and not a real filing.
Don't forget that for Form 8863, you need to check whether you qualify for the American Opportunity Credit or the Lifetime Learning Credit. They have different rules! AOTC is only for the first 4 years of college, but LLC can be used for any years. AOTC is generally better if you qualify ($2,500 max vs $2,000 for LLC).
Thank you for mentioning this! Since it's my daughter's sophomore year, I'm assuming the American Opportunity Credit would be the better option. Is there any reason I might want to choose the Lifetime Learning Credit instead if I qualify for both?
For a sophomore, AOTC is almost always the better choice. The maximum credit is higher ($2,500 vs $2,000), and 40% of the AOTC is refundable (up to $1,000), while the LLC is non-refundable. The only scenarios where LLC might be better would be if you've already claimed AOTC for 4 years for this student (not possible for a sophomore), or if your income is right at the phaseout threshold for AOTC but below the LLC phaseout. But that's a rare situation. For most people with a sophomore student, AOTC is definitely the way to go.
Watch out if you're claiming education credits and your student is working! My son was working part-time and claimed himself on his taxes and we couldn't claim his education expenses even though we paid them! Had to amend both returns. Big hassle.
Did your son check the box that said he could be claimed as a dependent? Because if he didn't, and he claimed himself, that would cause issues. But if he indicated he COULD be claimed (even if he filed his own return), you should still be able to claim the education credit.
This is such an important point that catches so many families off guard! Just to clarify for others reading - if your student files their own return and claims their personal exemption (or doesn't check the box indicating they can be claimed as a dependent), then the parents lose the ability to claim education credits even if they actually paid all the expenses. The key is coordination between the student and parent returns. The student needs to indicate on their return that they CAN be claimed as a dependent (even if they're filing to get a refund of withholding), which then allows the parents to claim both the dependency exemption and education credits on their return. It's definitely worth having this conversation with college kids before tax season to avoid the amendment headache you went through!
Christian Burns
I received that letter february 1st and still nothing. transcripts haven't updated at all smh
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Sasha Reese
ā¢have you tried checking your transcripts with taxr.ai? helped me understand why mine was stuck
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Christian Burns
ā¢checking it out now, thanks fam šÆ
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Tyler Lefleur
I got the 4464C letter back in January for my 2023 return. They were reviewing my EITC claim since I had a new dependent. Took about 82 days total but I finally got my refund last week! The waiting is brutal but hang in there. One thing that helped was setting up informed delivery so I could see if any mail was coming from the IRS without having to wait for it to actually arrive.
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AstroExplorer
ā¢82 days is rough but at least you got it! I'm worried mine might take even longer since it's for 2022 taxes. Did you get any updates on your transcript during those 82 days or did it just randomly show up?
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Kevin Bell
ā¢@Tyler Lefleur That s'actually really encouraging to hear! 82 days seems more manageable when you know there s'light at the end of the tunnel. Quick question - did your transcript show any movement during those 82 days or did everything just update all at once when they finished the review?
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