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Payton Black

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Just a heads up - if you do need to file an amended return for 2021, you still have time. The deadline is generally within 3 years of the original filing date, so you likely have until April 2025. But I'd get moving on the explanation to the IRS right away to stop any collection actions.

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Harold Oh

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Actually, I think the 3-year clock starts from the original due date, not the filing date. So for 2021 taxes, the amended return deadline would be April 15, 2025 regardless of when they actually filed in 2022. But your main point is right - they have time but should address the immediate collection issue first.

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Paolo Ricci

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now with my 2022 taxes! The IRS is claiming I didn't report about $18k in stock compensation, but like you, it was already included in my W-2. One thing that helped me understand what happened - I called my HR department and they explained that when you have "sell to cover" set up, the company reports the full value of the vested shares as income on your W-2 (which gets taxed as regular income), but then Fidelity also sends a 1099-B to the IRS showing the "sale" of those same shares to cover taxes. The IRS computer systems see both and think you earned the money twice. I'm still working through my response, but my HR rep said this is super common and they deal with it all the time. She recommended I include a letter from HR explaining their stock compensation reporting process along with my W-2 and 1099-B copies. Might be worth reaching out to your HR department too - they probably have template letters for exactly this situation since it happens so frequently with employees who have stock compensation.

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Tate Jensen

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One more tip - if your K-1 values are pretty small (like under $1000 investment), you might be able to use the de minimis rule for certain parts of the form. This can simplify your reporting. Ask your tax software support about this or check with a tax pro. Saved me a ton of headaches with my small Robinhood MLP investments.

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As someone who's been through the MLP K-1 maze multiple times, I'd strongly recommend keeping detailed records right from the start. Create a simple spreadsheet with columns for: Date of Purchase, Number of Shares, Original Cost Basis, and then add columns for each year's Return of Capital (Box 9a from K-1) to track your adjusted basis. Also, don't panic about the complexity - yes, MLPs are more work than regular stocks, but for small investments the actual tax impact is usually manageable. The key things to remember: 1) Form 1065 K-1 = Partnership/LLC in tax software, 2) Much of the "income" might actually reduce your taxes due to depreciation deductions, and 3) Keep those K-1s and basis records because you'll need them when you sell. One last thing - if this is your first year with MLPs and you're feeling overwhelmed, consider setting aside a small budget for a tax professional consultation just this once. They can walk you through the process and help you set up a good record-keeping system for future years. It's worth the peace of mind!

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This is excellent advice! I wish I had seen this before I started investing in MLPs. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I've been trying to track everything in my head and it's been a disaster. One question though - when you mention the depreciation deductions potentially reducing taxes, does that mean I might actually owe less in taxes this year even though I received distributions? I got about $150 in distributions from my oil MLP but the K-1 shows some depreciation amounts that seem larger than the distributions I received. Also, @Sophia Carson, do you have any recommendations for finding a tax professional who actually knows about MLPs? I called a few local CPAs and they seemed just as confused as I am!

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The 'overtime isn't worth it' myth caused me to turn down shifts for YEARS before I learned better. Here's a simple way to think about it: Let's say you're in the 22% federal bracket plus 7% state taxes. That means you keep 71% of each additional dollar (100% - 22% - 7% = 71%). So: - Regular time at $42.50/hr = about $30.18 after taxes - Time and a half at $63.75/hr = about $45.26 after taxes - Double time at $85.00/hr = about $60.35 after taxes - Triple time at $127.50/hr = about $90.53 after taxes Tell me where in that calculation it's "not worth it" to work more? Even at your lowest overtime rate, you're making more per hour after taxes than your regular rate before taxes!

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This breakdown is super helpful, thanks! When you put the numbers side by side like that it makes total sense. Triple time at $90+ per hour after taxes is definitely worth it to me. Do these calculations account for FICA/Social Security too? That's automatically taken out of my check as well.

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Nia Davis

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Good catch! My quick calculation didn't include FICA taxes. You'll also pay: - Social Security tax: 6.2% on income up to $160,200 (2023 limit) - Medicare tax: 1.45% on all income - Additional Medicare tax: 0.9% on income over $200,000 if single So for most of your income, add another 7.65% in FICA taxes. That would bring your total tax burden to around 29.65% (22% + 7% + 7.65%), meaning you'd keep about 70.35% of each overtime dollar. Using your triple time example: $127.50 Ɨ 0.7035 = about $89.70 per hour after all taxes. Still amazing money compared to your regular rate! The only time FICA gets tricky is if you hit the Social Security wage cap, but at that point you'd only lose the 6.2% Social Security portion while still paying Medicare taxes.

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Your buddy is spreading one of the most persistent tax myths out there! I used to believe the same thing until I actually did the math. Here's what's really happening: When you work that much overtime, your paycheck withholding might look scary because payroll systems often calculate as if you'll earn that same amount every pay period. But that's just withholding - not your actual tax liability. With your income levels, you're likely in the 22% or 24% federal bracket, plus whatever your state charges. Even if overtime pushes some income into a higher bracket, you're still keeping 70-75% of every overtime dollar you earn. Think about it this way: even your lowest overtime rate (time and a half at $63.75) nets you more after taxes than your regular rate before taxes. Your triple time is basically printing money at nearly $90/hour take-home. The real question isn't whether overtime is "worth it" financially - it always is. The question is whether the extra money is worth the physical and mental toll of working 84-hour weeks. That's a personal decision only you can make, but don't let tax bracket myths be the reason you turn down shifts!

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Skylar Neal

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been stressing about this for weeks. When you break it down like that - even my lowest overtime rate giving me more take-home than my regular rate before taxes - it makes the decision pretty obvious. I think my buddy got confused because his paychecks look smaller when he works a ton of overtime, but like you said, that's just the withholding being calculated weird. I never thought about how the payroll system might be treating each big paycheck like that's my new normal salary. The 84-hour weeks are definitely rough on my body, but knowing I'm actually clearing close to $90/hour on that triple time makes it a lot easier to push through. Thanks for helping me see through the tax bracket nonsense!

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This is absolutely unacceptable! I filed my return 8 weeks ago and just got off the phone with an agent who told me the same thing - another 120 days for "additional processing." When I asked what specifically was being reviewed, they gave me the runaround about "manual verification" without any real explanation. The worst part is that I e-filed everything correctly, have simple W-2 income, and claimed standard deduction - nothing complicated that should trigger these massive delays! I'm seriously considering filing a complaint with the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) because this feels like a systematic failure in their processing system. We shouldn't have to become tax code experts just to get our own money back in a reasonable timeframe. The fact that they're holding thousands of returns for 3-4 months with zero transparency is completely unacceptable. Has anyone had success escalating through TIGTA, or is that just another bureaucratic dead end?

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I totally feel your pain on this! The lack of transparency is what gets me the most - how can they just say "additional processing" and expect us to be okay with that for MONTHS? I've been reading through this thread and it seems like so many of us are in the same boat this year. I'm wondering if there's something systemic going on that they're not telling us about. Regarding TIGTA, I haven't tried that route yet but I'm definitely considering it too. From what I understand, they handle complaints about IRS operations and employee conduct. It might be worth a shot, especially if we can demonstrate this is affecting a large number of taxpayers with similar situations. Have you tried reaching out to your congressional representative's office yet? I've heard they sometimes have better luck getting actual answers from the IRS since they have dedicated liaison contacts. At this point I'm willing to try anything - we shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to get basic information about our own tax returns!

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Sean O'Brien

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I'm dealing with the exact same nightmare right now! Filed 9 weeks ago and just got the dreaded "120 additional days" notice when I called yesterday. What's really getting to me is how they act like this is totally normal - the agent literally said "we appreciate your patience" like I have a choice in the matter! I've been checking my transcript obsessively and all I see are these cryptic codes that don't make any sense. The most infuriating part is that I have the simplest return possible - single filer, one W-2, standard deduction, no dependents. How does THAT require 4+ months to process?! At this point I'm convinced they're using our refunds as an interest-free loan while we struggle to pay bills. The IRC section 6611 interest you mentioned better actually kick in because this is beyond ridiculous. I'm seriously considering documenting everything and filing complaints with both TAS and my congressman's office. We shouldn't have to become activists just to get our own money back! 😤

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Carmen Lopez

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Quick question - when you filed the amendment, did you check the "amended return" box at the top of the form? I've seen the IRS treat amended forms as new, late filings when this box isn't checked properly.

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StarStrider

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That's a good question! I just checked my copies and yes, the "amended return" box is definitely checked. We also included a cover letter explaining exactly what was being amended and referencing the original filing date. Still got hit with the penalty though.

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Carmen Lopez

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That's really frustrating. The only other thing I can think of is whether the amendment was sent to the correct address. The 3520-A specifically needs to go to the Ogden, UT service center, even if your regular return goes somewhere else. If your tax preparer sent it to the wrong location, it might have been treated as a new filing rather than an amendment.

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Demi Hall

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I'm dealing with something very similar right now with my Canadian RRSP account. Filed both 3520 and 3520-A forms on time for three years running, but just got a penalty notice for my 2022 filing claiming I never submitted the 3520-A. The really frustrating part is that I have the e-filing confirmation from my tax software showing both forms were transmitted successfully. When I called the IRS (after waiting 3 hours on hold), the agent could see my 3520 in the system but said there was no record of the 3520-A, even though they were filed together electronically. Has anyone else experienced this issue where one form gets "lost" in their system while the other one processes normally? I'm wondering if this is a systemic problem with how they handle these foreign trust forms or if it's just random bad luck. I'm planning to file an appeal with all my documentation, but seeing all these similar stories makes me think there's something seriously wrong with how the IRS processes international filings.

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