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Logan Chiang

Should I buy my primary residence through an LLC to maximize tax write-offs for renovations?

I'm house hunting in a city where condo prices have pretty much flatlined. People who bought places 7-10 years ago are barely getting 1-2% annual returns when they sell, and most end up losing money once you factor in the mortgage interest. I've found a condo that I'm thinking about making an offer on. Plan to live there for about 5 years as my primary residence, but it needs some work. The kitchen cabinets are falling apart, all appliances are ancient (like 20+ years old), and I'd probably need to install hardwood floors plus other updates before selling. Being realistic, I don't expect to make more than $65K over purchase price when I eventually sell. I'm more focused on finding ways to write off the renovation costs rather than avoiding capital gains tax. The problem is, as a regular homeowner, most of these improvements aren't tax-deductible. So I'm considering setting up an LLC, buying the condo through it, and then technically renting it to myself. I understand I'd lose the homestead exemption (which is only about $700/year in my state anyway) and the capital gains exclusion. My main goals are to deduct the mortgage interest, property taxes, and as many maintenance/renovation expenses as possible. Plus, if I end up selling at a loss, at least I could use that loss for tax purposes. Does buying through an LLC make sense in my situation? What am I missing here? Would all these expenses actually be deductible this way? Any major downsides I should know about?

Isla Fischer

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This approach has some serious pitfalls you should be aware of before proceeding. While your reasoning makes sense on the surface, the IRS tends to look carefully at arrangements where people rent to themselves. First, any rental agreement between you and your LLC must reflect fair market value - you can't just pay a nominal amount. The arrangement must genuinely have profit motive and economic substance. Second, mortgage lenders typically charge higher rates for investment properties and may have terms prohibiting this kind of arrangement. Many lenders won't offer residential mortgage terms to an LLC, meaning you'd need commercial financing at higher rates. Third, beware of the "hobby loss" rules. If your LLC consistently shows losses (which seems likely given your renovation plans), the IRS might reclassify it as a hobby rather than a business, meaning those deductions would be disallowed. Fourth, you'd lose the $250K/$500K capital gains exclusion on your primary residence, which could be significant depending on your market's future performance. Finally, remember that renovations split into repairs (deductible as expenses) versus improvements (which must be depreciated over time). Many of the items you mentioned would be capital improvements with long depreciation periods.

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How would the IRS even know that I'm renting to myself? I can just create an LLC with a different name that doesn't obviously connect to me, right? And wouldn't major renovations count as repairs if they're fixing already broken stuff like those old cabinets?

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Isla Fischer

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The IRS would know because you must disclose related-party transactions on your tax returns. Creating an LLC under a different name doesn't change the fact that you own it - that would need to be reported on various tax forms. Attempting to disguise this relationship could constitute tax fraud. Regarding renovations, the IRS makes a clear distinction between repairs and improvements. Repairs maintain property in its current condition (fixing a broken cabinet door), while improvements add value or extend useful life (replacing all cabinets). Most of what you described - new cabinets, appliances, hardwood floors - would be classified as improvements that must be capitalized and depreciated over 27.5 years for residential rental property, not deducted immediately.

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Logan Chiang

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Thanks for the detailed response. I didn't realize mortgage lenders would charge higher rates or potentially reject this approach entirely. That alone might make this financially unviable. About the hobby loss rules - how many consecutive years of losses would typically trigger IRS scrutiny? Since I'd be paying myself market rent and deducting improvements, I imagine the LLC would show losses for several years. I knew about losing the capital gains exclusion, which I thought would be fine given the stagnant market, but you're right that markets can change unexpectedly.

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Ruby Blake

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Ruby Blake

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Daniel Rivera

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Have you considered just taking out a HELOC once you own the property? You could use that for the renovations, and the interest would be tax-deductible if used for substantial home improvements on your primary residence. Much simpler than the LLC strategy. Another option: keep track of all renovation costs meticulously as they'll increase your cost basis when you sell, reducing any potential capital gains (though it sounds like that's not your primary concern). The LLC approach creates a lot of complexity - additional tax returns, state filing fees, commercial insurance requirements, potential transfer taxes when you move the property into the LLC, etc. These costs might outweigh any tax benefits.

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Logan Chiang

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The HELOC idea is interesting and much simpler. Would the interest be deductible immediately or only when I file taxes after completing the renovations? And does it matter if the renovations are purely cosmetic vs. necessary repairs? I didn't consider the extra complexity with state filing fees and commercial insurance. Are those typically substantial costs?

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Daniel Rivera

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The interest on a HELOC is deductible in the year you pay it, as long as the funds were used for buying, building, or substantially improving the home that secures the loan. The IRS doesn't distinguish between cosmetic improvements versus necessary repairs for this deduction - both qualify as long as they're genuine improvements to the home (not maintenance or repairs). Regarding complexity costs, they vary by state but can be substantial. LLC filing fees range from $50-$800 annually depending on your state. Commercial insurance typically runs 15-30% higher than residential coverage. Some cities also charge business license fees for rental properties. Then there's the cost of preparing an additional tax return for the LLC (Form 1065) which might cost $500+ annually with an accountant. These expenses add up quickly and often negate the tax benefits for a single property.

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Just wanted to point out something nobody's mentioned: mortgage interest and property taxes are ALREADY deductible on your personal return if you itemize deductions, even without an LLC. Setting up this complex structure won't give you any additional benefit for those specific expenses. The only potential tax advantage is writing off depreciation and renovation costs, but as others have pointed out, most renovations would be capital improvements depreciated over 27.5 years - not immediate deductions. Also, mortgage lenders almost certainly won't give you a residential mortgage rate for an LLC purchase. You'd likely need a commercial loan at 1-2% higher interest, which would immediately negate many tax benefits.

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Connor Rupert

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I thought the Tax Cuts & Jobs Act limited SALT deductions to $10k? If property taxes are high in OP's area, wouldn't the LLC structure help get around that limitation?

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Omar Farouk

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Good point about the SALT limitation! However, the LLC rental structure doesn't actually help circumvent the $10k SALT cap. Property taxes paid by the LLC would still be subject to the same limitations when they flow through to your personal return via Schedule E. The IRS specifically addressed this in guidance following the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. The LLC rental income and expenses (including property taxes) would be reported on Schedule E, but the property tax portion would still count toward your overall SALT limitation. Some states tried to create workarounds with "passthrough entity taxes," but these are complex and don't apply to single-member LLCs anyway. So unfortunately, the LLC structure won't help you get around the $10k SALT cap - you'd still be limited to the same deduction whether you own the property personally or through an LLC.

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