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Sarah Ali

Tax Accountant doesn't disclose rate and suddenly charges $350 after phone consultation

I recently reached out to a small tax accounting firm that was recommended by Fidelity Financial for advice on my new employment situation. I scheduled a face-to-face meeting with one of their accountants to talk through some tax options with my new job. The morning of the appointment, the accountant called saying he wasn't in the office and suggested we do the call over the phone instead. I agreed, thinking it was reasonable. However, there was never any mention of fees - neither how much it would cost nor how they would calculate it (hourly rate vs. flat fee). The phone call was painfully long-winded. I briefly explained my situation, and this accountant went on endless tangents about tax code, including many basic concepts I already knew. I couldn't easily interrupt him to steer the conversation back on track. He spent time explaining the difference between a 401k and IRA, which is pretty elementary stuff when I had already mentioned taking several accounting courses and handling my own taxes for years. Most of his explanations weren't even relevant to my specific questions about my new employment situation. When we finally wrapped up the call (which lasted exactly one hour), he casually mentioned "I hope my assistant told you about our fee - where can I send the invoice for $350?" Looking back, I feel like the call was intentionally stretched out. My specific tax questions could have been answered in 15-20 minutes with a focused discussion rather than a one-sided tax lecture filled with unnecessary information. I expressed my surprise and frustration about receiving this bill without any prior fee disclosure. Their response was basically "sorry, can't adjust the bill, we're very busy and you received valuable tax information." What would you do in this situation? Is it normal for tax professionals to not disclose their rates upfront? Should I pay the $350 or dispute it? I feel it's unethical to not mention fees before providing services, though I definitely should have asked directly.

As a longtime preparer, this situation raises some red flags. While it's standard practice for tax professionals to charge for consultations, not disclosing the rate beforehand is poor business practice at minimum. Most reputable accountants and tax professionals will clearly state their fee structure before any services begin - whether that's an hourly rate or flat fee for consultations. This transparency builds trust and prevents exactly the situation you're experiencing. In terms of what to do now, you have a few options: 1) You could pay the bill but express your dissatisfaction with the lack of transparency and indicate you won't be using their services again. 2) You could propose a reduced payment that you feel better reflects the value received and the actual time needed to address your specific questions. 3) If you feel strongly, you could formally dispute the charge, especially since no fee was disclosed prior to service. Whatever you decide, I'd recommend documenting your communication thoroughly. This includes noting that no fee was disclosed prior to the consultation.

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Would you recommend filing a complaint with any professional organizations they might belong to? Like the state CPA board or something? I had a similar thing happen to me last tax season but it was only $150 so I just paid it and wrote a bad review.

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Filing a complaint with the state CPA board is definitely an option if you feel the situation warrants it. Most state boards have ethical standards that include fee transparency, and this could potentially violate those standards if there was absolutely no disclosure. As for reviews, they can be effective. Many professionals rely heavily on their reputation, and a detailed, factual review explaining the lack of fee disclosure and the unexpected invoice can alert other potential clients while giving the firm a chance to respond or improve their practices.

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I've worked with several accountants and the good ones ALWAYS discuss fees upfront. What happened to you is unfortunately becoming more common as tax season gets busier. Ask them to provide their fee disclosure policy in writing. If they can't provide documentation that you agreed to their fees beforehand, you have a strong case to dispute the charge. You could offer to pay a reduced amount ($100-150) for the consultation as a compromise, but I wouldn't pay the full $350 for information you didn't need. Also, check your state's CPA board requirements - many states require written fee agreements before providing billable services.

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Thanks for this suggestion. Would offering to pay a partial amount potentially cause problems later? Like could they report it to credit agencies or something if I don't pay the full amount they're asking for?

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Offering a partial payment won't automatically cause problems if you handle it properly. I'd recommend putting your offer in writing (email is fine), clearly stating why you feel the full amount isn't justified (no fee disclosure, excessive time spent on basic concepts not relevant to your situation) and that you're offering $X as full settlement of the matter. They're unlikely to report a disputed charge to credit agencies, especially if you're actively communicating and offering a reasonable settlement. Small CPA firms typically don't have systems in place for credit reporting anyway. They would need to take you to small claims court for $350, which would cost them more in time than it's worth.

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My accountant charges $275/hr but she tells EVERYONE this rate when they first call to make an appointment. She also sends an engagement letter before doing any work. What happened to you sounds really unprofessional.

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Same! Mine charges $325/hr but I knew that going in and she's super efficient with her time. No unnecessary explanations unless I ask. One call I had last year only took 12 minutes and she charged me for 15 mins only ($81.25). Thats how honest tax pros operate.

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This is exactly why I always ask about fees upfront now, even if it feels awkward. I learned this lesson the hard way a few years ago with a different service provider. For your situation, I'd document everything - the lack of fee disclosure, the unnecessarily long explanations of basic concepts you already understood, and how the call could have been much shorter if focused on your actual questions. Then I'd send them a written response (email works) explaining why you feel the charge is unreasonable and offer a partial payment that reflects the actual value you received. Something like: "I'm willing to pay $125 for the consultation, which I believe fairly reflects the 15-20 minutes of relevant advice I received. The remainder of the call consisted of basic tax concepts I already understood and wasn't necessary for my specific employment situation questions." Most small firms will accept a reasonable settlement rather than deal with the hassle of pursuing the full amount. The key is to be professional but firm about why you feel the original charge is unjustified due to their lack of transparency.

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This is really solid advice. I'm dealing with something similar right now where a tax preparer didn't mention their "document review fee" until after they'd already looked at my paperwork. It's so frustrating when professionals don't disclose all their charges upfront. Your suggestion about documenting everything and offering a reasonable partial payment makes a lot of sense. I think $125 sounds fair for what Sarah actually received - especially since most of the call was basic information she already knew. The fact that they stretched it to exactly one hour also seems suspicious to me. @Sarah Ali - I d'definitely recommend putting any counteroffer in writing via email so you have documentation of your attempt to resolve this reasonably. That way if they do try to escalate it somehow, you can show you made a good faith effort to settle.

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This is completely unethical behavior from that tax firm. As someone who's dealt with multiple CPAs over the years, I can tell you that legitimate professionals ALWAYS disclose their fees before providing any services. The fact that they waited until the end of an hour-long call to mention a $350 fee is a huge red flag. It sounds like they deliberately padded the consultation with unnecessary information to justify a higher bill. Any competent tax professional should be able to address your specific employment tax questions in 15-20 minutes without going into basic concepts you already understand. I'd strongly recommend disputing this charge. Send them a written response explaining that no fee was disclosed prior to the consultation, that much of the call consisted of irrelevant basic tax information, and that you're willing to pay a reasonable amount ($100-125) for the actual relevant advice you received. Don't let them intimidate you with the "we're very busy" response. Being busy doesn't excuse poor business practices or lack of transparency. Professional service providers have an ethical obligation to disclose fees upfront, and most state licensing boards have rules about this. Document everything and consider filing a complaint with your state's CPA board if they won't work with you on a reasonable settlement. This kind of behavior gives the entire profession a bad reputation.

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