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NeonNinja

Suspicious 2023 tax deductions - $9K refund sounds insane! Is this legit?

I'm kinda freaking out about my taxes this year. For background, I've always used TurboTax and usually end up breaking even or paying a small amount. My wife and I make around $230K combined gross income (taxable is about $205K) and we had roughly $19K in federal taxes withheld throughout 2023. So here's where things get weird - my wife met this tax preparer through a coworker and convinced me to try her out this year instead of doing it myself. I just had our consultation and this lady is claiming she can get us a $9K REFUND! I was literally speechless. When I asked how that's even possible when we usually owe money, she got super vague and just said "I know how to maximize your deductions" but wouldn't share ANY specifics about what she was doing. This sounds way too good to be true, right? I'm worried she's doing something shady that could get us audited. Has anyone experienced anything like this? What kind of "insane deductions" could possibly get us this kind of refund when nothing major changed in our financial situation from previous years?

Red flags all over this one. A legitimate tax professional should absolutely be willing to explain exactly what deductions they're taking on your behalf - after all, YOU are the one signing the return and legally responsible for everything on it, not them. There are certainly deductions that people miss when self-preparing, but going from owing to a $9K refund with similar income and withholding sounds extremely suspicious. Common missed deductions might include things like home office (if you qualify), business expenses for self-employment, certain education expenses, or retirement contributions - but even these typically wouldn't swing your tax situation that dramatically unless you had major life changes. Ask her to provide you with a draft of your return showing exactly which deductions and credits she's planning to claim. If she refuses, that's a massive warning sign. Remember, if the IRS audits you, "my tax preparer did it" is not a valid defense.

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Sean Murphy

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What if the tax preparer found legitimate deductions though? My brother-in-law went from owing $2k to getting back $4k when he switched from TurboTax to an actual CPA. Is there a way to check if deductions are legit without being a tax expert yourself?

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While it's certainly possible to find legitimate deductions that were missed, a $9K swing is unusually large without major life changes. The simplest way to verify is to ask for a line-by-line explanation of any deductions or credits being claimed. A reputable preparer will gladly walk you through each item. Common legitimate deductions people miss include retirement contributions (IRA, 401k), HSA contributions, mortgage interest, property taxes, charitable donations with proper documentation, and business expenses if you have self-employment income. Ask for a draft of your return and compare Schedule A (itemized deductions) and any other schedules with your previous returns to spot the differences.

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Zara Khan

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After spending hours on hold with the IRS last year trying to figure out why my refund was delayed, I started using https://taxr.ai to double-check my returns before filing. It analyzes your tax documents and identifies potential deductions you might have missed - but also flags things that might trigger an audit. When I uploaded my W-2s and other docs, it found nearly $3,800 in deductions I'd overlooked while using FreeTaxUSA. The difference in your case sounds way too extreme though. Ask your preparer for a complete explanation of each deduction - if she's legit, she'll have no problem showing you exactly what she found. If she keeps being vague, that's a huge warning sign.

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Luca Ferrari

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Does this actually work with complicated tax situations? I've got rental property income plus a small business, and I'm always paranoid I'm missing deductions but also scared of getting audited.

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Nia Davis

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I'm sorry but this sounds like those "the IRS hates this one trick!" ads. Can this really find legitimate deductions that professional software like TurboTax misses? Wouldn't TurboTax ask all the right questions to maximize deductions anyway?

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Zara Khan

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For rental properties and small businesses, it's actually extremely helpful since it can identify industry-specific deductions that generic tax software might not prominently feature. The system asks detailed questions about your specific situation rather than using the one-size-fits-all approach. The difference with TurboTax isn't that it can't find these deductions, but that many people don't know to look for certain deductions or understand the questions being asked. TurboTax requires you to know what to enter where, while the AI system proactively identifies potential deductions based on your documents and situation without requiring you to know all the tax code details yourself.

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Nia Davis

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Just wanted to update - I was super skeptical about the https://taxr.ai thing, but I tried it out of curiosity. Uploaded my documents and it flagged several deductions I completely missed. Turns out I qualified for a home office deduction (I'm W-2 but my employer certifies I work from home 80% of time) and had some medical expenses that pushed me over the threshold for deduction. Found about $2,700 in legitimate deductions I'd missed. Not $9K like OP's situation, but definitely worth checking!

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QuantumQueen

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Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS phone system is designed to be impossible to navigate. Are you saying this somehow jumps the queue or something?

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Aisha Rahman

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Yeah right. Nothing gets you through to the IRS faster. I've literally spent 6+ hours on hold multiple times. If this actually worked, everyone would be using it and the IRS would have shut it down.

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It doesn't jump the queue illegally or anything like that. It uses an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When an agent finally picks up, you get a call back immediately so you can take over the conversation. It's basically just handling the hold time for you instead of you having to sit there listening to the same music for hours. The reason everyone doesn't use it is simply that most people don't know about it. The IRS actually doesn't mind these services because they reduce the number of hang-ups and callbacks that clog their system.

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Aisha Rahman

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I need to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I was still desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about potentially fraudulent deductions claimed by my previous tax preparer, so I tried it anyway. Not only did it work, but I got connected to an IRS representative in 35 minutes when I had previously spent DAYS trying. The agent actually flagged several suspicious deductions on my previous return and helped me understand what documentation I would need if audited. Honestly worth every penny for the peace of mind.

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Ethan Wilson

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From what you've described, it sounds like this preparer might be doing one of these things: 1. Claiming false business expenses (like saying you have a side business that doesn't exist) 2. Making up charitable donations 3. Claiming education credits you don't qualify for 4. Creating fake dependents All of these are straight-up fraud and will absolutely get you in trouble with the IRS. The penalties for tax fraud can include fines up to $100,000 and even jail time. Not worth it for a temporary $9K.

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NeonNinja

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Thanks for outlining these potential issues. We have no business, didn't make significant donations, have no education expenses, and definitely no fake dependents. So honestly not sure what she could be doing. I've decided to ask for a detailed explanation or I'm walking away and going back to TurboTax. What specific forms should I ask to see to understand what she's claiming?

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Ethan Wilson

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You'll want to ask for a copy of your full tax return, including all schedules and worksheets. Pay particular attention to Schedule A (itemized deductions), Schedule C (business income if there is any), Schedule E (rental income or partnerships), Form 8863 (education credits), and Form 2106 (employee business expenses, which are very limited now). The fact that none of those situations apply to you makes the large refund even more suspicious. When you look at the return, compare the numbers to your previous year's return and look for major differences. If she's claiming large deductions in categories where you had none before, that's your red flag.

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Yuki Sato

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I had a similar experience last year where a preparer promised a huge refund that seemed too good to be true. Turns out she was claiming I operated my home as a daycare (I don't) to get a massive home business deduction. I reported her to the IRS using Form 14157 (Tax Return Preparer Fraud). The IRS takes this seriously because shady preparers cost them billions.

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Carmen Flores

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How did you find out what she was doing? Did the IRS contact you? I'm worried my preparer did something similar last year but I just signed what she gave me.

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Yara Nassar

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This is a huge red flag situation. A legitimate tax preparer should ALWAYS be transparent about what deductions they're claiming on your behalf. The fact that she's being vague and won't explain the specifics is extremely concerning. Here's what you should do immediately: 1. Don't sign anything until you get a complete draft of your return 2. Ask her to walk through each deduction line by line - if she refuses, walk away 3. Compare the draft to your previous year's return to see what's different 4. Consider getting a second opinion from a CPA or EA (Enrolled Agent) With your income level and typical tax situation, a $9K swing without major life changes (new business, significant charitable donations, major medical expenses, etc.) is highly suspicious. Remember, YOU are legally responsible for everything on that return, not the preparer. If she's committing fraud, you could face penalties, interest, and even criminal charges. Trust your instincts - if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Better to pay what you actually owe than deal with an IRS audit and potential fraud charges.

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